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STEVIE PRESENTS > Windies Cricket Fever! > SHIV 446 MSB > Front Page Stuff..The Global Warming Lie, and the Trure Face of Al Gore. |
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See the Film That Pops Gore's Bubble In the name of "saving the planet," an international fascist movement has been created with the intention of reducing the world's population on a scale greater than Hitler dared dream of. Environmentalism is just a new name for the policy of Malthusianism or eugenics, long promoted by the Anglo-Dutch finanical system. The purpose of the fraud known as global warming is to justify the slashing of living standards in the developed world, and to condemn billions in the developing sector to a sub-human life, without access to even so elementary a benefit of modern life as electricity.Posted Jul 14, 2007 08:00 AM PST Category: SCIENCE/HEALTH Remember that Al Gore, in order to take just one campaign picture of himself paddling a canoe, arranged for a dam in New Hampshire to release 4 billion gallons of water ... in the middle of a record drought |
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That seems like the customary Republican and right-winged tactic, but it seems they are getting more desperate, now they are portraying global-warming as a “evil grand conspiracy”. Two classical lines: “international fascist movement has been created with the intention of reducing the world's population on a scale greater than Hitler dared dream of” – References to Hitler are always a hit (i.e. Saddam), and apparently this new movement wishes to have a more devastating affect than the “antichrist” himself. “global warming is to justify the slashing of living standards in the developed world” – Oh no what will all the housewives in the suburbs drive if we take away their SUV’s, where will the Washington Oil Lobby get their funding if more fuel efficient cars are introduced, where will we get the money to buy fluorescent light-bulbs, and so on. |
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yu believe in global warming Escobar? I dont yu know. I dont know if I go this way but global warming is a crock to me and when u go into these things you alwasy find the hand of manipulation in it. for eg. all the polls shjow a majority of americans against the Iraq war....yet at htis very time the peace/anti war movement is seperated, against it ielsef, impotent, cannot capitalise on the general public sentiment to end the war and.bring the troops home what that means to me is that the anti war movement has been pre-empted..that it has been composed a along by government sponsored groups set up for the express purpose of misdiedcting the progressive movement there has always been such government programs...the last one there wAs evidence of was one called COINTELPRO. maybe yu should google cointelpro. |
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COINTELPRO FBI counterintelligence programs to repress political dissent in the United States. http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/cointel.htm - 14k here! I googled it for you! |
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it ought to be a factor in your reasonings that those people so accused of attacking the human species other than themselves, have the money, means and most importantly the interest, for odoing exactly what they are accused of doing and far more Last edited on Sat Jul 14th, 2007 10:28 pm by mapoui |
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Human population needs to be reduced- and drastically so. No other species bigger that are even half our size have 6 billion + members. People who deny global warming are the same retards who want to continue raping the planet and expanding human numbers at the cost of this very own planet. |
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Human population needs to be reduced- and drastically so. No other species bigger that are even half our size have 6 billion + members. People who deny global warming are the same retards who want to continue raping the planet and expanding human numbers at the cost of this very own planet. Indians...people of Indian descent who have welcomed Wifan here as an NRI and muched him - PLEASE TAKE NOTE. THERE ARE 6 BILLION PEOPLE ON PLANET EARTH OF WHOM IN INDIAN ALONE 1.1 BILLION ARE INDIANS. INCLUDE THE INDIAN DIASPORA AND WE MAY WELL ADD ANOTHER 50 MILLION. AND IF THE WORLDS POPULATION IS TO BE DRASTICALLY REDUCE BY WHOM, WHAT AMOUNT AND WITH WHAT MEANS....AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WHO ARE TO BE REDUCED? IF THE BILLION INDIANS ARE NOT A GREAT PART OF THE REDUCTION THEN WHO ARE TO BE. AFRICANS TOO AND CHINESE! WHAT ABOUT THE WHITES...ARE THERE SUPERFLOUS WHITES TO BE REDUCED TOO..ARE DO THE PLANS EXCLUDE ALL WHITES? AND IF SKUNTFACE WIFAN ADVOCATES THIS PLAN WHAT IS HE: iNDIAN OR UNCLE, A TRAITOR WHO IN HIS OWN MIND HAS ALREADY COMMITTED THE SIN OF GENOCIDE AGAINST HIS OWN PEOPLE? BUT OF COURSE THE WIFAN HANDLE IS PROBABLY JUST THE BOARD FACE TO HIDE AN ENTITY..THREE OF THEG GOING BY THE NUMBER 6 = 666 HIMSELF. and now becuse we know Skuntfan to be a devil in disguise he is close to or represent the thinking of the powers that be we can see claerly what the Global warming issue really is ...as is claimed in the article and documentary a guise to justify the mass slaughter to come. if we wanted any proof at all of the claim that Global Warming is a program of hidden genocide you have just given it to us Skuntfan. listen people: 1) every one alive currently will soon enough be dea..so much for the 6 billion! 2) far from an over population problem we have a population problem: who are to replace the 6 billion. every country in the developed world is losing popuylation bigtime and one cause is most certainly development, which portends thr problems for the entire planet once development spreads worldwide. the questions is how to maintain population, even replacement population when people no longer have need for 6 and 7 children for families? 3) the phisical principle of expansion and decline! processes come into being out of parent processes which gave rise to them..they in turn giving rise tpo more and on and on. each process ios born reaches itrs peak and then declince giving rise to more like itself. in there there is no equilibrium, no stasis, no balance. a simple process of beginning, peak and decline. it can be stated that if a process is not growing it is in decline. is the human species really growing or has our social life a processitself that can be called the csiocial process itself peaked and is no on the decline...hence we have so many genocidal maniacs like Wifan proposing insane solutions for problems that do not even exist. the problem is Skuntfan himself,who represent a system in the world that is no longer working,..which failure threatens the class that has become entrenched in social power because of this sytem. and to meet this threat this social challenge and to maintain its global power it tells us that its problem are ours and we must agree to have ourselves reduced or killed off by the billions to solve our problems which are not ours at all but thr e problems of the elite the fundamental problem in the world is capitalism. its time has come as it must and society must evolve into new systrems of social organisation and economic production that meet human needs of survival on the day, stage and period. THAT IS THE PROBLEM AND NO OTHER....AND THE WHOLE MATRIX OF OTHER PROBLEMS IN SOCIAL LIFE GLOBALLY STEM FROM OR GROW OUT OF THE BASIC ONE..THE FAILURE OF CAPITALISM THROUGH OLD AGE AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF PRODUCTIVE FORCES THAT OUTSTRIP CAPITALISM'S CAPABILITY TO ORGANISE EFFEXCTIVELY IN THE INTEREST OF THE HUMAN SPECIES. THAT IS ALL IT IS. WE AHEV AGAIN ARIVED AT A POINT OF BASCI SOCIAL REVOLUTION, WHEN THE OLD HAS RUN ITS COURSE AND IS FAILING AND SOCIETY MUST EVOLVE INTO NEW FORM OR ORGANISATION. IT IS A TIME WHEN THE PEOPLE ARE DUE TO RISE UIP AND EXECUE THIS FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE IN HUMAN RELATIONS. THE OLD IS FIGHTING TO MAINTAIN ITSELF..THE CAPITALISTS...THEY ARE FIGHTING TO MAINTAIN CAPITALISM AND THEIR PALCE AT THE TOP OF HUMAN SOCIETY. THEY CANNOT DO IN IF NATURE IS ALLOWED TO TAKE ITS COURSE. SO GIVEN THE TECHNOLOGIVAL POWER OF THE DAY, IN THEIR HANDS, THEY HAVE PLANNED TO CARRY OUT WHATEVER THEY BELIEVE IS NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THEIR POWER WHCIUH THEY SEE AS GOD GIVEN AND EQUAL TO THE WORLD. IT IS THEY OR NO WORLD AT ALL, FOER THEY ARE THE WORLD AND WITHOUT THEM IT IS ANARCHY, CHAOIS ETC. THAT IS THE NONSENSE THEY BELIEVE AS IF NATURE CARES ABOUT THAT SECTARION SHIT. AND THERE IS WHERE THE ENTITY SKUNTFAN SITS, IN COMPLICTY WITRH THE OLD, BATTLING RIGHT HERE AND NOW TO KEEP CAPITALISM IN PLACE. THAT IS WHY THE JACKASS THING FOLLOWS ME AROUIND ON THIS MB FOR IT CLEALY SEES THE NEED TO ADDRESS THE MORE FUNDAMENTAL COMMENTS I MAKE FOR HE FEARS THE IMPACT THEY MAY HAVE ON READERS HERE ON 446 That is what the rhe entity is up! 4) this is the final challenge to humanity as a whole. we face up to it and win and we move on into a maturing stage, in full confrontation with our realty as biological beings in the same process IU have tried to describe. if we let Skuntfan and whose he represent win then humanity is toast. in fact we may be toast already for we have done some seriuous damage to the planet and ourselves. we have one window, a small one remaing to turn around and set up a living situation on planet earth. that means social revolution, thoroiugh-going and complete. there is no other way but for the masses to rise and take society forward. that is the mode byu which society progresses...through massive social revolution. that has alwasy been the case and walwasy will be as longf as we rain divided society rule ny an exploiting minority, based on dived socially and rule. once that type of social organisation passes we will emerge into a type of social activity demanding new ways of reformoimng itself ias it goes. let the skunt face come with his lies now and you all out there better get prepared to develop allyuh capability to partic[ate in this and all out there effectively in allyuh individual; and claass interest...and stop skunt face minorities and dictaros rule our lives Last edited on Sun Jul 15th, 2007 08:49 am by mapoui |
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there is no overpopulation problem..and Global Warming is agenocidal farce! Last edited on Sun Jul 15th, 2007 08:51 am by mapoui |
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You talk too much skunt because of the chip on your shoulder. Who said anything about genocide ? 1 child per couple policy is good enough to reduce the population by HALF in 30-40 yrs time. And yes, it includes whites, indians,blacks,chinese etc etc. People who deny overpopulation problem are the clueless idiots who have very little clue about how much population this earth can sustain. And i don't care about how much FOOD we can grow- that is irrelevant. What is relevant is how much population the earth can sustain without us wiping off all the other species off the land and clear-cutting forests away. and Global Warming is agenocidal farce! Denying science wont let you anywhere except to your own fruitless annihilation. |
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This is the first time I heard population reduction strategies as a solution for global warming. Everything I heard advocated was lifestyle and technological changes. But we could do nothing about global warming, and let old "natural disasters" Malthusian population check decrease population. Then we would really see new and old territorial wars, as land is going to be at a premium. |
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Escobar wrote:This is the first time I heard population reduction strategies as a solution for global warming. Everything I heard advocated was lifestyle and technological changes. But we could do nothing about global warming, and let old "natural disasters" Malthusian population check decrease population. Then we would really see new and old territorial wars, as land is going to be at a premium. Population reduction is ultimately necessary- because a huge reason for global warming is we clear-cutting forests to make way for agricultural land and cities...just think...in the last 150 yrs, approximately 8 million square km of land was clear-cutted from forests were clear-cut away in the US, Canada and brazil. That wont have an impact on GW ? PS: I am a humanist first, Indian/Canadian second..which is why i do not like the idea of Malthusian terriotorial wars. If it came down to that,the world would then be Indian,chinese and White- the arabs & the blacks would be wiped out in any 'malthusian wars' because while the whites have superior firepower, we indians and chinese have much more # of people...so the first target would be the poor black and arab folks... ironic thing is, Maphead opposes my solution but his opposition will be the doom of his own 'race'. Last edited on Sun Jul 15th, 2007 06:44 pm by WIfan |
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What I am suggesting is sustainable development; those of us that live in privileged countries will have to make some sacrifices. How willing are we to take the bus to work, drive a hybrid instead of an SUV, put a higher tax on fossil fuels, replacing appliances with more energy efficient counterparts, purchase grocery items without the intensive packaging and so on. World population as it stands is sustainable, there is enough for everyone but not their greed, to paraphrase the great Gandhi. Reducing population does not get to the heart of the problem, that we live in a society that is very wasteful and have been accustomed to living grossly self-indulging lives. Why should we reduce the world’s population? So we can continue to live the lifestyle that we do? We have the means to slow down the processes of global warming; it’s only a matter of changing of implementation. |
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World population as it stands is sustainable, there is enough for everyone but not their greed, to paraphrase the great Gandhi. !!! No! There is enough food for everyone-yes. But seriously, we are massively over-populated. I am not one of the retards who argue 'lets keep our gas-guzzling cars, power-plants and wasteful lifestyle- lets just reduce our population by 1/6th and we'll be fine'. I am fully in favour of alternative sources of fuel and a socialist-agenda regulating capitalism like it happens in scandinavian countries. The reason i am pro-population reduction is because population growth has led to massive environmental degradation over the centuries. To a point where it is unsustainable now. Remember, we are supposed to be part of nature- one of many species. not the ONLY species left walking. All this alternative sources of energy to preserve climate counts for squat if we keep breeding and clearing forests to make way for agricultural lands and cities... |
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Denying science wont let you anywhere except to your own fruitless annihilation. and look at the conflicted asshole!!!!! what is he proposing......annihilation anyway! he proposes to kill off half to 2 thirds the human population...then admonishes me me with the above statement. this is what you call insanity...the inanity of the western right-wing, where the entity lives. no one nees to die for global warming, a situation a problem that does not exist. everyone will die anyway solving the overpopulation problem with with is absolutely natural. we have a population problem currently in the developed world, and soon to vist the entire planet if social revolution is successful and spreads material and human development to all the people of the world. then we are would be faced with the question of how to deal with maintiang a growing human population, expanding and so on the up curve.... for if we are not expanding we would be in decline..to what extinction? I will soon post what Richard lleakey of the the great leakey family says on this question. far from the absoilute jackass and misdiorecting c shit chat of the entity we have aproblem the contours of which he does not touch. in fact it is his argument that would lead ud to destruction for it does not dela with the real human population problem but the jackass western propaganda, tha that has behind ithe saving of the white race from subsunation into the coloured races of the world. the racists/fascists intend to kill people of colour like raindrops to make sure the white race survives. and that is what the Skunfan has been co-opted into. an Indian fascist against his own people coopted by the white racists to help kill his own. the entity, that goes by the handle Wifan is an example of the greatest type of fool the human species produces..the turncoat. |
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What I am suggesting is sustainable development; those of us that live in privileged countries will have to make some sacrifices. How willing are we to take the bus to work, drive a hybrid instead of an SUV, put a higher tax on fossil fuels, replacing appliances with more energy efficient counterparts, purchase grocery items without the intensive packaging and so on. ********* escobar! you are doing a dangerous something here..talking openly with that doctrinaire idiot turncoat entioty without a sufficient base of knowledge to give you a critical chance against his nonsense. dont you see the jackass contradictions in his speches: he is a humanist..yet he is proposing to kill off 2-3 billion people or more. and to prove he is a coopted soul he has so much faith in what he says he is prepared to come before Indisn themselves who will among the first killed with his message of killing off the worlds population. that is what you call faith, religious, doctrinaire. he is not afraid for himself..if he is indeed indian. his message is all. where is the science here, where is the great engineer so scientific? don you see the damm fool coopetd operating at the behest of his white handlers? look here escobar? how much is there in the world now? where is it produced? how much productive capacity in the developing world the west has FORCED out of production to maintain their markets for western produced food? is trhere not a suefeit of food in the world only from western sources? how much fdo they dump? has the engineer jackass undertaken a study or world productive forces and land availability to cary the hum,an population indefinetly? or does he continue to rely on western studies for his answers? LET ME ESTABLISH THIS FOR YOU ESCOBAR....THEN YOU GO TRY ANSWER FROM YOUR OWN RESEARCH THE QUESTIONS ABOVE..AND ANY MORE THAT DEVELP DURING YOUR RESEARCH; THE SO-CALLED HUMAN OVERPOPULATION PROBLEM IS A CAPITALIST PROBLEM FOR THE CAPITLAIST CANNOT MAINTIAN EMPLOYMENT FOR A GFROWING POPULATION INDEFINTELY IN A MARKET ECONOMY. REASON: THERE IS AN EXPONENT TO PRODUCTIVE CAPACITY AND THERE IS NO EXPONENT TO POPULATION GROWTH RELATIVE TO THOSE INSIDE THE MARKET. IT IS BAD EBNNOUGH THAT THOSE OUSIDE THE MARKET KEEP GROING PROVIDNIGN A SERIOUS POLITICAL AND REVOLUTIONARY PROBLEM FOR THE SYSTEM. BUT THOSE INSIDE THE MARKET DECREASE WHILE CAPACITY GROWS..INDEED HAVE LONG OUTSTRIPPED THE CAPACITY OF THOSE INSIDE AND ALSO OUTSIDE THE MAKET TO CONSUME TO MAKE ROOM FOR MORE GROWTH. ALL OF THIS HAS A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON CAPITALIST PROFITABILITY, RESULTS IN FALLING RATES OF PROFIT, CONCENTRATION IN BUSINESS OWNERSHIP AND TYOES OF PRICING THAT MAINTIANS PROFITS FROM SMALLER AND SMALLER BUSINESS ACTIVITY..ALSO TO OUTSOCURCING OF JOBS AROUND THE WORLD AND THE REDUCTION OF LIVING STANDARDS EVEN INSIDE THE MARKET. SO WE HAVE IN THE WORLD THE PHENOMENA OF LIVING STANDARDS DROPING EVERYWHERE, WHILE THE RIGH GET RICHER...AND ENORMOUS TECHNOLOGICAL CAPACITY THAT CAN SOLVE THE WORLDS MATERIAL PROBLEMS LYING IDLE... THATS RIGHT IDLE...WHILE STARBWOY AL GORE RUNS AROUND THE WORLD CRYING GLOBAL WARMING, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME HIS OWN CONSUMPTION OF THE WORLDS RESOURCES HIS ONE INDIVIDUAL SELF AND HIS FAMILY IN THE 3-4 HOUSES HE OWNS OUTSTRIPS THE EARNINGS OF WHOLE COMMUNITES OF THOUSANDS IN THE DEVELOPING WORLD. ONE REASON WHY GORE CAN DO THIS IS BECUSE HE KNOWS IT IS NOT TRUE..WHAT HE IS SYAING..THAT THERE IS A PURPOSE TO HIS LIES...AND THAT PURPOSE IS TO SAVE HIS SYSTEM. AL GORE IS THEN A A MOST SINCERE LEADER..... OF HIS OWN SOCIAL CLASS..THE ELITE CLASS. IF YOU LOOK AT LEADERSHIP AS THE PRESINDENCY OF AMERICA, FARNCE ETC YOU MISS THE WHOLE POINT OF LEADERHSIP IN THE WORLD. IT IS CLASS YOU MUST BE CONCERNED WITH. AND IF YOU ARE YOU WILL THEN SEE THAT HAVING OFFICE IS NUTTEN TO THE ELITES, THAT AT ALL TIMES ALL OF THEIR LEADER LEADERS REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL AFFLIATION ACCORDING TO IDEOLOGY THEY ARE LEADING FOR THEIR CLASS NOT FOR ANY NATION AS A WHOLE. FOR THEM THEY ARE THE NATION PERIOD! THAT IS WHY YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND AN ENTITY LIKE SKUNTFAN. HE IS A RICH MAN AND THERE IS A CORESPONDENCE BETWEEN ALL THE ELITES OF THE WORLD. THEY ARE TO A GREAT EXTENT INTERDEPENDENT, EVEN THE COLOURED ONES AND WORK TOGETHER FOR THEIR MUTUAL OR CLASS INTEREST GLOBALLY. THAT ANOTHER REASON WHY THE WIFAN ENTITY CASN TELL INDIANS THEY MUST AGREE TO HAVE THENMSELVES KILLED. WIFAN BELIEVES AS ELITE HE WILL NOT BE KILLED..SO HE CAN ADVOCATE THAT ORDINARY INDIANS BE KILLED OFF IN THE HUNDEREDS FO MILLIONS. THE SACRIFICE HE IS ASKING YOU TO MAKE BY GIVING UP YOUR LIFE HE WILL NOT BE MAKING AT ALL. THERE IS MUCH MORE i WILL TELL YOU BUT i HAVE TO GO NOW...i HAVE TO CONTINUE THIS ECONOMIC POINT... BUT IT IS CRICTICAL ESCOBAR THAT YOU DEVELOIP YOU OWN CRITICAL ABILITY IN THIS DEBATE. TO SAVE HUMANITY FROM THIS ABSOLUTE AND UNNECESSARY CATASTROPHE...A FACSIMILE ACTUALLY GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN IRAQ..WHICH IS ACTUALLY ALL THE IRAQ/AFGHANI WARS ARE ABOUT..WAR TO REDUCE AND ELIMINATE WHOLE POPULATIONS...WE MUST HAVE SANE AND EDUCATED PEOPLE..FUL OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH REGARDLESS OF WHICH SIDE OF THE EQUATION YOU ARE ON. BUT BE FOREWARNED...THERE IS NO OVERPOPULATIONPROBLEM!!!! ONLY A CAPITILASIT PROBLEM. IT IS "HOW HE CAPITALIST SAVE HIMSELF AND HIS SYSEM AS HISTORY IS ABOUT TO PASS HIM BY. THAT IS THE CRISIS OF THE DAY AND STAGE AND NOTHING ELSE. ALL AND EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD YOU SEE, ALL THE ISSUES AND HOW THEY ARE STRUCTURES GFROWTHS OUT OF THIS FUNDAMENTAL REALITY...THE FAILURE IN TIME, THE OLD AGE OF A SYSTEM AND THE SLITE IT BROUGHT TO SOCIAL DOMINANCE...THE OLD FACVING THE NEW AND MUST GIUVE WAY TO THE NEW...YET PUTTING UP A MIGHTY FIGHT TO SATY IN CHARGE. RIGHT IN THE CENTRE OF THIS WITH ALL HIS BULLSHIT YOU WILL FIND EXPLANATION FOR THE BULLSHIT WARRIOR WIFAN, SKUNFAN I CALL HIM FOR HE IS THE WORST KIND OF HUMAN BEING...A TURNCOAT. BUT IT IS ESSENTIAL YOU BRIUNG YOURSELF UP TO SPEED SO THAT you KNOW AND YOU ARE NOTR DEPENDENT ON WHAT ANYONE TELSS YOU CATEGORICALLY. THE SAME GFOERS FOR EVERYONE ELSE! Last edited on Mon Jul 16th, 2007 07:47 pm by mapoui |
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COMPETITIVE PRODUCTION, CAPITALIST PRODUCTION HAS ALWASY ENSURED THE PERFECTABILITY OF PRODUCTIVE FORCES, INTRODUCING THE X FACTOR TO PRODUCTIVE FORCES FROM THE START, ENSURING TECHNOLOGICAL REVOLUTIONS RELATIVE TO PRODUCTION ALL ALONG..TO THE POINT AT WHICH CURRENTLY A FACTORY THAT USED TO EMPLOY THOUSANDS A GENERATION OR MORE AGO, TO ENSURE CERTAIN LEVELS OF PRODUCTION, CAN CURRENTLY BE BUILT TO BE RUN BY 1-2 HUNDERED PERSONEL TO PRODUCE FAR MORE THAN THE THOUSANDS USED TO BACT IN A NOT DO DISTANT DAY. THIS LEVEL OF CAPACITY OUTSTRIPS THE HUMAN CAPACITY TO CONSUME EVEN ALL THE 6 BILLION WERE INSIDE THE MARKET. CURRENT CPACITY IF FULLY EMPLOYED COULD CARRY TWICE THE CURRENT PLANETARY HUMAN POPULATION. currently more planes, trains, cars, shoes, pants, food etc can be manufactured and grown than all the humans that live can fly, ride, drive, wear and eat. and he energy that it takes to produce all this and more does not creat a heat problem in the world. it has so far created a pollution problem but that seems deliberat as well. it appears the capitalist let everything bad happen to use ideologically against the majority in the world to justify what they are doing, to seperate human mids from proper reasoning. production can be made cleaner that it is by carrying through the treatment of toxic wastes to harmless substances. the capitalist refuses to to this, poisons the people...has poisoned the air land and water, the food we eat and the liquids we drink. so pollution is the absolte dangerous problem killing people by the thousands daily. YET WITH THE RISE OF GLOBAL WARMING AS AN ISSUE POLLUTION HAS ALL BUT DISAPPEARED AS A SERIOUS ISSUES IN THE MEDIA. YER HOW MANY MILLIONS OF CANCERS THAT PEOPLE DIE FROM DAILY, HEART DISEASE, AND THOUSANDS OF OTHER DEBILITATING ILLNESS STEMMING FROM POLLUTION IS NOW IGNORED UNDER FULL ATTACK FROM GLOBAL WARMING? so the issue should be pollution not global warming. and if pollution is killing millions yearly and it is now forced ot out of the consciousness of the people of the world by a spurrious issue. Global Warming isnt killing the people...which is what what the system is really after . Global Warming only threatens to kill millions so far. Pollution actually kills millions and all have forgotten how serious a problem it is under the monopoly of the media by Gore and his bullshit. the caoitalists are laughintheir way to the bank with the success of fooling the people again...and keeping them fooled, and frightened all the time |
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if the world is heating up and carbom immissions by humans is the cause why isnt the capitalist doing more to reduce co2 emissions!? maybe the engineer can tell us how to make cracking of gas in an internal combustion engine so useful that it re -uses the gas until it is ready to dissipate ino space as harmless heat. I am not versed in these things but zI do know that our use of fossils fuels if extremely waeteful dictated by capatilist principle..which buils obsolence into its products and processes on the principle of sell more..not quality construction for max prolonged use. |
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he proposes to kill off half to 2 thirds the human population...then admonishes me me with the above statement. You talk too much skunt about issues you do not understand- an undereducated fellow brainwashed due to his extremist white-hate agenda. Nobody is supporting killing off people here- only asking you not to make more morons like you by procreating and brainwashing your chirren to be the next batch of fugging morons. Is that in any way not clear ? Stop fugging reproducing ! Not fugging killing ! and i ent talking about every-fugging-body stopping reproducing- that'd be pretty stupid. But enough so that in 100-150 yrs, there are 1 billion of us, maybe less and we can return to mother nature the land we destroyed only because we bred too-fugging much! We are supposed to be ONE species amongst MANY- not living in fugging concrete jungles with a cat,dog or a sparrow in sight only. You fugging dotties and then north-american living folks have no fugging idea bout this really. You is the parasite that breeds like crazy without control and without any care to the REST of the ecosystem. This is a planet we live on- NOT our planet to own,pillage and exterminate life from. But chip-pon-shoulda slave-descendants have very little clue because they see everything with their race-tinted glasses. Cleaning up our technological wastes & pollution is a huge priority-but you fuggin retard, it wont do SQUAT if we keep breeding and clear-cutting more forests for lumber and agricultural lands ! Fugging moron of the highest order is you- miseducated, chip-pon-shoulda and with a mind sealed tigher than a swiss-bank vault. I cyan open a mind that closed-off but i sure can try and contain the propaganda of your closeminded brain. Which is why you fugging ran away from the discussion of civilization and you fugging cant answer about our clear-cutting for agricultural lands and extinction of species due to our huge population infringement of land ( no way should humans hog 70% of the habitable land- yes, we hog it in either our farms, cities, plantations or drilling projects). Like i said, don't kill off your race by being fugging stupid.If population is left unchecked, there will be massive wars in human future for resource-domination. That war will use any agenda necessary-religion, race & culture. First victims of that will be your precious hafricans because you is the easiest of 'races' to wipe out today if there was a racial 'total war'. Which is why wake the fugg up and preach about loweing our population. Otherwise, your race is gonna be the first casualty in a total war for resource-domination. You is the fugging idiot that is chopping the same tree on which your treehouse is, simply because you too a blind fugger. Carry on- not my loss really. My job was to warn yuh- if yuh bring doom pon your own race- be my guest. We may go too, but you going before us- remember dat. |
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Spoken like a true idiot. Stick to mindless sci-fi, given that your understanding of science is so ridiculous to think that it'd be even worthwhile doing that. do know that our use of fossils fuels if extremely waeteful dictated by capatilist principle Big problem is transportational fuel. Electric cars/planes arnt gonna be a reality. And nuclear-planes are the dumbest-fugging idea ever. So until you find something that you can carry along, recharge easy and isnt fugging expensive to make, fossil fuel is gonna remain. Its a matter of economics that not even communists or socialists can deny because that kind of denial belongs only in strict commie theory that is not implementable in society. As i said- no way in hell you are ever gonna get a society where a guy who busted his a$$ learning advanced sciences to be an engineer is happy making exactly the same as a McDonald's burger-flipper. Dat kind of senility belongs in senile books like Das Capital, not in reality. Last edited on Mon Jul 16th, 2007 09:48 pm by WIfan |
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You talk too much skunt because of the chip on your shoulder. Who said anything about genocide ? 1 child per couple policy is good enough to reduce the population by HALF in 30-40 yrs time. And yes, it includes whites, indians,blacks,chinese etc etc. the only chip on my shoulder is the one you put there. there might actually have been one in the past however. and if there is one there why must a blac man have to expalin it. chip on my shoulder or not I have nothing of the kind to explain away nor excuse for or to anyMCone...least of al you Wifan Who said anything about genocide ? 1 child per couple policy is good enough to reduce the population by HALF in 30-40 yrs time. And yes, it includes whites, indians,blacks,chinese etc etc. who yu trying to fool? do you and your handlers really believe any such tomfoolery? or do you expect the people fo the world to agree to any such plan of population reduction? do you actually believe the capitalist relys on any such hit and miss, consent of the target nonses when they are planning..especially when they have the means at their disposal to effect their plans? you must be truly co-opted man...a pure fool! there are ways afoot as we speak to reduce the worls population...aids and all the recent exotic diseases are part of the mix. Gore with his Global Wwrming nonsense is the economic component in the mix now well underway. those scientists who are calling Gores science to diplay itself in the face of truth are working for humanity, to save our asses for they are well aware of whats planned. you are the fool Skuntfan...and absolute one..coopted to work against yourself. I have know the capitalist for all my life. I can now tell at a glance the ulteriors of any program that comes about. The war on Poverty: a War on the Poor. The War on Drugs...the war for drugs and the destruction of minorities in America specifically the homosexual community who remember were targetd first in the aids attack. The Alliance for Progress: the progres of western coporations at the expense of Latin America. the war to End all Wars: to prepare the way for Endless War the war on Terror: a war to terrorise the rest of the world and to justify or lay the ground work for the locking down of America, Canada and Mexico go back man..through the years to see what all the wars were about. the informaion is now de-classified. easy just google them..or make requests yourself for information. they will give it to you. Global Warming is simply the latest justification of a program to further the aims of that status quo globally |
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As i said- no way in hell you are ever gonna get a society where a guy who busted his a$$ learning advanced sciences to be an engineer is happy making exactly the same as a McDonald's burger-flipper. Dat kind of senility belongs in senile books like Das Capital, not in reality. when you post like that you confirm my impression of you as a damm erudite fool..a man so full of himself yet the biggest fool there is. do me a favour and take this claim of yours above to the humanities department of Simon Fraser and ask for opinions as to its credibility and value. then honestly let us all here know see the replies. |
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mapoui wrote:As i said- no way in hell you are ever gonna get a society where a guy who busted his a$$ learning advanced sciences to be an engineer is happy making exactly the same as a McDonald's burger-flipper. Dat kind of senility belongs in senile books like Das Capital, not in reality. Nothing more than rhetoric from an idealist fool who is too idealist to the point that it doesnt work. What a pity that these type of idealist fools,idealizing something that is not workable is the retard talking about sensibility- and the usual suspsect excuse of capistalism(hey sh!thead, i aint a capitalist! but i aint a retarded marxist like you either!), racism and bigotry. I guess slave-descendant with chip-pon-shoulda have no clue to how the world works...afterall, this cretin hasnt even left the 'new world' and hardly knows anthing of the REAL world-the old world, where humanity has been based, is based and will be based in primacy forever. Sorry but you is a clueless blackman with a chip on your shoulder. |
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Do not confuse clueless hacks for scientists. And do not take too seriously an issue that you lack the brain cells and the qualification to understand. Global warming-whether real or not- you aint a credible person to debate on this. Your understanding of science is minimal- and if not, i dare ya to disclose your qualifications and level of scientific persuit. |
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neither are you idiot! from what yu display yu lack in the most basic activity of all...simple reasoning, wisdon, common sense. you have displayed yousef to be such a complete jackass in these pages that just to see your handle raises disgust. is this a contest between you and I abouquantity of personal knowledge of science? thats what i claimed about you above: you are an accumulator of qualifications for grandstanding and show -off...who is brighter than who? childish bullshit at a time in the world when there is general crisis all you are in this for is show- fuck you and your qualifications. they are useless here and wherever you are for the serve little useful purpose. for all you qualifications you have displayed yourself a damm foll wrapped up by western bullshit, turned inside out against yourself and trying to lead your own to tragedy at the hands of your enemy. you damm fool I truly hate people like you. as such you are no damm different from all the blac people you are so conemptuous of. you are as much infiltrated and dumb like they are, acting daily against yourself, fully coopted in the ineterst of people who like to see the face of you, horizontal and facing up as they lay you down. what qualification do I need after a lifetime as a blac man to know when I am being scammed by the white western elite? and there you go categorical again about hacks and who has qualifications or not... setting yourself up as the know-it all, raising disgust with you to an all time high. .why are these scientists hacks, what are their names and the quality of their work...how can you tell the quality of their work... what qualifies you to pronounce on them in such a complete and negatively judgemental fashion? after all you are an engineer not a meterologist. that is what you must do with your superior scientific knowledge..make the issues simple for us lesser breeds, so that we become equipped to deal effectively with the issue you have not even singled out one of the scientists you call hack..c and try to tell us whythey are hack....with an examination of their work.... and peer review of the man/woman. you have made no attempt to explain you claim in any fashion giving something we can run with....only challenging me to and exposure of qualifications to jude who is more qualfied. so when you win that exposure what has changed apart for the momentary thril you get form besting me in this fashion? has the issue suddenly been changed positively as a result of you being an engineer? what effect does the fact that you went to Simon Fraser have on anything at all? who the fuck cares,if that fact did not fit you out to be a decent contributor to human progress, and not the jackass you have proven yourself to be in these pages? yet you judge the opposition to Gore so harshly and you give us nothing in return for your outright condemnation, nothing to explain and substantiate your claims. but yu see idiot...I know the western elite and all their works over the years. actual experience at their hands has taught me to distruist anything and everything flowing from them...it is guilty until proven innocent with them. now you tell me if I am wrong to be so distrustful? the CIA has just released what has been termed th'family jewels'...a long list of western elite crime in the world. go take a look will you ...if you havent already. I listd elsewhere a long line of wars by America..on Poverty, On terror, on drugs, on Irag and Afghanistan: and programs: the Alliance for progress..etc. then there were the contras, cointelpro and all manner of evils perpetrated aginst the people. Americans were gassed, exposed to epidemics, experimented on with drugs to alter the mind..and lord knows what else. now I must trust Al Gore and his Global Warming bullsht? man even if the the scientific comunity did not come out against his nonsense, common sense and experience should lead the generality..including you...to distrust Al Gore, until we are certain what he is saying is right and contains nohidden programs against the peole of america and the world. every other program, scare and issue before, has hidden programs deleterious to the general population of the planet...so why not this rass one? common sense should also tell us that given the nature and longevity of the planet we have come to understand so far, that there are patterns and cycles that far outstrip human time....more time than we have been here so far...which lends credibility to opposing scientific claims. you musty tell us why what scientist claim in opposition to Gore is untrue and why the results of 'hackish' endeavours are also not true. I asked you recently for example, to explain what precession of the equinoxes meant and you still have not come up with an answer. the precessions is a cylce of 26000+ years duration, an extremely important cycle the origins of knowledge, destroys your Coonian bullshit about sapienisation and social cultural origination outside of Africa. if you are really some 22-24 year old Simon Fraser graduate you are some kind of fool you are. your fellow NRI's wont tell you but I am telling you that you are..giving you the chance to begin a program of correction and personal development that may lead you to become a decent human being in tune with your world and help to the development of the humasn of whom you are a part. you are young yet and may make of your life a worthwhile...but not as you are going. that again is of course if what you say you are is true. I of course do not believe any such thing. you are some 3 people posting one handle, following some line of propaganda for whatever purpose. 'you' are so'religious' that you can hardly be anything else. Last edited on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 06:03 am by mapoui |
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Spoken like a true chip-pon-shoulder victim mentality slave-descendant. fuck you and your qualifications. they are useless here and wherever you are for the serve little useful purpose. If it only were so easy to rubbish qualifications in real life. They are not useless here (in this thread) and very much relevant. Global Warming is to do with science- something i am very well trained in and something which you are clueless about. now I must trust Al Gore and his Global Warming bullsht? Little knowledge is a dangerous thing. FYI, Gore was dismissive of Global Warming while he was the veep. Gore's stock was falling(he was in near obscurity), so he took the GW issue and jumped pon its bandwagon. Ie, it is not a brainchild of Gore that we buying- GW was true even when Gore was rejecting it and GW is true even when agenda-driven chip-pon-shoulda blackmen like yourself are rejecting it.
I am waiting for you to answer my 100 other questions in the IVC thread. You aint getting any answers till you answer my questions, fool.
And that is what i do in real life. But i cannot open your mind for you- cant teach a fugger like you who isnt willing to learn in the first place ! destroys your Coonian bullshit about sapienisation and social cultural origination outside of Africa. Typical diversionary tactic from the afro-superiorist. I say again, my views have nothing to do with Carleton Coon. Coon argued that we as a species developed in seperate parts of the world and not necessarily out of africa. Coon's question is about evolution of the species. Something i havnt even touched- my question is the evolution of civilization- something you havnt touched/cant touch. giving you the chance to begin a program of correction and personal development that may lead you to become a decent human being in tune with your world and help to the development of the humasn of whom you are a part. And i say the same to you. Given that i've travelled far more than you have and is far more aware about what is in tune with the world and what isnt, doctor, take thy own medicine! |
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And i say the same to you. Given that i've travelled far more than you have and is far more aware about what is in tune with the world and what isnt, doctor, take thy own medicine how have you arrived at this insane conclusin..yu have travelled more than I? what in heavens name do you know about me? who told you what about me? the Rev and his so-called cracking of peoples info with his pc wizardry? yes I have heard all about that! man as i said you are nuts! catergorical and assumptive to an insane degree. you know nothing of the sort..and I have travelled extensively. to tell who has travelled more we would to swap information and compare...to prove a trivial and silly point. that is where all your childish bullshit debate leads..always! |
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I am waiting for you to answer my 100 other questions in the IVC thread. You aint getting any answers till you answer my questions, fool. you really believ I am going to spend the huge time it would take to wade through and eal with your nonsense at such a low level of knowledge and intellectual discourse? you are phantastic, dealing in fairy tales. I am not. You dont know about the precession anyway..... I will take the time to explain it soon! |
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you are phantastic, dealing in fairy tales. I am not. Other way round, fella. And you got no leg to stand on- do not try to teach an engineer logic or scientific validity-okay ? I am trained in this- you only rely on what you THINK from second hand sources.
It was an assumption-but an educated assumption. I may not know about you-but i know about ME- and i know that i am more travelled than 995 outta 1000 people. Playing the odds here- pretty safe bet for me that you nowhere as close to being as travelled as I am. Lived in half a dozen countries, lived in over a dozen cities, been to over two dozen other countries. And yes, i only 25. Burns, doesnt it ? 
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Oh yes i do- but i aint humouring your fantasies and backdated conclusions that refuse to keep up with facts-facts that we find and will KEEP finding for a long time to come. Afterall, you are so intimidated by me, you think i am the equivalent of 2-3 people ! hahahahahaha! you certainly know how to give a guy half your age a good ego-boost.  |
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-if you go through my archived posts you will see that I have already presened he precession here.. -yet yu must have googled it furiously since I mentioned it to learn as much as you could cram... -2-3 people shud not serve as an ego boost. it is an expansion to try to capture the extent of the jackass you are -keeping up with facts is not creating phantasies... now let me here waht you say about the 30k year old iron mine found in what is now Swaziland...give us your update on that. then what was the original significance of its existence..what was a major purpose of omine |
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keeping up with facts is not creating phantasies. Says the guy stuck to 40 year old backdated theories of Diop.  How ironic!  now let me here waht you say about the 30k year old iron mine found in what is now Swaziland...give us your update on that. As i said, i ent answering a single question of yours until you answer mine. I posed first and you ran away-despite the fact that i presented scientific evidence of science-trained experts on this. Nice deflection strategy, chump- come back to global warming. Your denial of global warming is nothing more than your lack of understanding of science and denial of data corroborrating it. |
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You talk too much skunt about issues you do not understand- an undereducated fellow brainwashed due to his extremist white-hate agenda yu wish eh! the point is we must see you for what you are..what yu represent, your danger. that is all that is important with you. your grandiloquence helps in this regard, exposing the uselessnees you represent regardless of what you may be..or rather WHAT YOU CLAIM YOURSELF TO BE. my porpose here is to set up things as straight as possible for westindian possibilities among my own here on 446, given our human content-diversity etc..for the region, for westindians it is not essential that I be Einstein/Marx/Freud combined, only essential that i am capable of setting up fundmentals that can help us all forward with out westindian tasks. as marxist i know my place and the essential need for the fullest development of all and every individual alive at any time...and westindians in our case here. I must not pre-empt the development of others by seeking to substitute my self in their place... of their..the development of others. I am to do my part, and to bring others along. what you are is reactionary, the reaction emplaced, awaiting opportunity to screw society...as intellectuals screw society now, currently as such you are no different lets say from our old westindian intellectuals even such as reverred as Dr Walter Rodney was. CLR James for example was the only one who saw what such as they were and are.... and outlined the potential for us. yu are a vested interest, the mind that supposedly will lead social chagne..or can lead and contribute to social change, lead the revolution etc. even if as now you stand on the right-side..not the left-side seemingly you will be invovled and with both sides form the reaction. yu see education and the educated were set up for this task, alienated from the rest of society by the very thing that is supposed to save society and take it foreward..education and the educated. you do not see your own alienation and the danger such alienation poses to society, curently and in the future. why? because you are and will be a vested interest, for as the 'mind' you will not work and participate in the production of the wealth.... or at such a time the material needs of society. that is beneath you in your alienation you will lead and direct thats it..that what you are fitted out for. and so are a vested interest in waiting, dependant on the work of others to live, alienated from the workers in the form of taxation.... and/o whatever means any elite finds to hand to seperate workers from the goods they produce.. and very soon in order to make safe your position as the intellectual leaders in society, the actuall leaders, you interest will cause you to veer away from socialst and democratic principles, to become the reactio, imposing yourself on revolutionary society, killing the revolution, subsuming it into an opportunity for the intellectual group to dominate society. the reaction then lives in the current intellectual elite, in you and those like yourself. and very soon we will see the re-emergence of police and army and command economies and wars etc..the evry way of life the revolution sought to eliminate. that is what he intellectual elites will do in order to protect your view of things that as intellectual you are entitled to a greater share than any prdinary worker whose work obviously as as essential as yours in maintainng the social whole that is what such as you portend, already are - leeches on society, producing nothing, alive at the expense of those who work. ....your current bureaucractic and white collars everywhere. thats why the intellectuals must be made to do actual work, real work in oder to earn a living in a revolutionary future..work according to qualifications. engineers will not be able to chat shit and run things but work accoridng to skill and traiing in the production of the means of material survival at higher and higher levels as society goes. that is to eliminate any possibility of the another elite class forming that will dominate and enslave society again. it is either you work or society will be forced to kill off all the intellectuals while training more with a socialist sensibility and outlook who may better fit the new dispensatrion. that is the problem with intellectuals. who have aborted the potential all progressive movements they have led since the age of independence. just look at the westindies! Williams and the Manleys, Adams and Maryshaw, Best and Tapia movement in TnT. the westindiesis at the highest levels coming out of our ears...yet the region remains a social/economic wasteland. the answer does not lie with such as you idiot, with the intellectual elites...and especially with such as you individually with your great education. the intellectual elites are part of the prolblem, a huge part of it and cannot lead into the future. that job belongs to the people who will organise society in a democratic manner, focus society oin the needs of all within which framwork there is need for much intellectual WORK. you all can and must do your work - the work of society, directed by society, be part of society, have a say, but not lead society as a class seperate from production, paid from the general production of those who work. thats done completely and must never happen in a revolutionary situation. this is the last stage when intellectuals will be able to be grandiloquent jackass such as you are, bellowing your sense of superiority over all supposedly beneath you. and the conception of such a society you have as one in which great minds are made to earn the same as poor minds displays such a poveryt of social knowledge and imagination based on real facts it is stupendous that one who claims as much for himself intellectually is so foolish about the future potential of democratic or socialist society. yu have any idea of what the Marxists mean when they speak of the "NEGATION OF THE NEGATION?" no time to edit! deal with it as it is . 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yuh know something! I am incredibly beat! a really tired man..exhausted and on my nose. I have to take off posting for awhile. I am not up to it anymore. tek win Wifan. see yu all! |
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http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/1573 a lil debate to keep allyuh warm while I am away |
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Thats the problem..you are a marxist..follower of a doctrine even stupider than capialism. The rest of your post is unadulterated drivel. Simple reason why I will never be happy with the salary of a McDonald's burger-flipper and 99% of engineers wont sit for that is because we've had to bust our ar$e 10000x worse than the burger-flipper to EARN more. Marxist economy has never worked and it will never work. Take it from someone who hails fom bengal- the longest-running elected marxist government in history of the world. Aint nothing a two-bit wannabe pinko like maphead can teach me there- i have seen marxist nonsense first-hand.
Such has been the hallmark of marxist regimes- wanton killing for their demented dogma. Nothing new- just don't pretend to be a humanist while you are at it. |
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mapoui wrote:yuh know something! I am incredibly beat! a really tired man..exhausted and on my nose. Remember this much, sh!thead- i will outlive you and your demented propaganda. |
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http://caribbeancricket.com/topic/863408/4 subaltern Joined: 23-Mar-2004 Posts: 743 12/07/07 3:33:42 PM In reply to WIfan Finally,some advice about your choice of words Instead of concentrating on who says what and who deserves to be told what (which are pretty subjective and I happen to strongly disagree with your choice of (not-so-humorous) sobriquets, do try to realize that such unnecessary venom is well, unnecessary. Argumentativeness and creating ferment just for the sake of it is truly a childish game and I thought you had evolved beyond the need to do that. " |
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Mapoui , check your PM......thanks |
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Thats the problem..you are a marxist..follower of a doctrine even stupider than capialism. The rest of your post is unadulterated drivel. Simple reason why I will never be happy with the salary of a McDonald's burger-flipper and 99% of engineers wont sit for that is because we've had to bust our ar$e 10000x worse than the burger-flipper to EARN more. Marxist economy has never worked and it will never work. Take it from someone who hails fom bengal- the longest-running elected marxist government in history of the world. Aint nothing a two-bit wannabe pinko like maphead can teach me there- i have seen marxist nonsense first-hand oh lawd!!! what subjectivity |
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In reply to WIfan it would do u good to read the philosophy of knowledge. that way you can then learn to differentiate between a social science and a natural science. it would then do u some good to read and understand some political economy because then you can appreciate that the simplistic diagnosis is the last refuge of dishonest people one. i think u have regressed, i dont know why. u say you are educated, but the post suggests an uneducated person stridently insisting that his view of the world is the right one. its a great shame-its not educated, its ignorant. sweet! Southward is absolutely precise here! dangerous reply there Southie!..erI I mean brillinat.... |
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thenks for posting that CC.com thread Ketch! what can one say about Wifan! Does Sir K know what he he is actuallydefending when he stands up for Wifan. Wifan is already incorrigeable, cannot be deterred or reformed as a human being. and he is completely insane an STRANGELOVE by any sort of definition. as I pointed out some time ago people somewhere are going to have a whole lot of trouble with this person in due course. one may empathise with the fact that he is young and human and one must be considerate. I am so but I have nothing to do with anything. and no matter how young and human Wifan is dangerous and can cause great harn as is clear from all he says and does here |
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and he is completely insane an STRANGELOVE by any sort of definition. A marxist calling others insane is a rather ironic and laughable thing, really. Does Sir K know what he he is actuallydefending when he stands up for Wifan. Whatever it is, it is far less retarded than you defending Ketch_im and islamic terrorists who follow Koran to the letter of the law. |
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Whatever it is, it is far less retarded than you defending Ketch_im and islamic terrorists who follow Koran to the letter of the law I am against any such dortrinaire behaviour and have raved against here there and everywhere. the doctrine is simply a guide, absolute faith reserved for the deity and not the doctrine. I cannot be acused of being doctrinaire. inded the central tenet of Marxism is the essential nature of keeping abreast by living and doing, and doing the necessary analytuc work that goes into practice, observation of results analysys and back into practice. that is the nature of things that marisim as a scientif method is based on. where is there anaything dogmatic in marxism? some who profess marxism may not be. some may corrupt the science, use it as means to corrupting end. that does not mean the method is flawed..or is flawed as to make o\it os no use |
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Whatever it is, it is far less retarded than you defending Ketch_im and islamic terrorists who follow Koran to the letter of the law I am against any such dortrinaire behaviour and have raved against here there and everywhere. the doctrine is simply a guide, absolute faith reserved for the deity and not the doctrine. I cannot be acused of being doctrinaire. inded the central tenet of Marxism is the essential nature of keeping abreast by living and doing, and doing the necessary analytuc work that goes into practice, observation of results analysys and back into practice. that is the nature of things that marisim as a scientif method is based on. where is there anaything dogmatic in marxism? some who profess marxism may not be. some may corrupt the science, use it as means to corrupting end. that does not mean the method is flawed..or is flawed as to make o\it os no use |
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Then oppose the doctrinal retard ketch_im's perspective and dont lecture someone who's culture is NOT doctrinal! inded the central tenet of Marxism is the essential nature of keeping abreast by living and doing, and doing the necessary analytuc work that goes into practice, observation of results analysys and back into practice. The essence of marxism is retardation- the same kind of retardation that expects people to put in more effort for no reason- that i put effort for 4 years and get a degree and i make the same as the lazy skunt who never left their McDonald's job. Sorry but you are confusing retardation with salvation. Marxism is retarded and as i said- you have no idea of marxism at work- i come from a state where marxism has ruined the state.
Err no. Marxism is based on stupid idealism in the realms of impracticality. The same stupid idealism that expects a man to put 8 yrs effort to become a surgeon and then mek the same amount as the janitor. hence marxism doesnt work, hasnt worked and will never work.
Typical arguments given by muslim fundies too...fact is, there isnt a SINGLE marxist government that has led to economic and ecological prosperity of a nation. Capitalists are anti-nature because of their greed, marxists are anti nature because of their total ignorance of the issue. Now, come back to Global warming- which is scientifically established. That you are challenging something scientifically established speaks volumes about your lack of scientific expertese than anything. And therefore, you should refrain from commenting on issues you are not educated on. And no, listening to some propaganda doesnt make you educated- you are INCAPABLE to guage the veracity of the science behind Global Warming on your own. So you must rely on someone to explain it to you and spoon-feed you. And since you go to racist chip-pon-shoulda blackman pages, who just oppose anything comming out of the white world for the sake of it, due to historical paranoia, you pick the retarded explanation over the logical one. |
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The essence of marxism is retardation- the same kind of retardation that expects people to put in more effort for no reason- that i put effort for 4 years and get a degree and i make the same as the lazy skunt who never left their McDonald's job. Sorry but you are confusing retardation with salvation. Marxism is retarded and as i said- you have no idea of marxism at work- i come from a state where marxism has ruined the state yuh mean what the people there who did whatever they did 'works where did Marx leave some prototype state called marxist.... that all who follow the scientifc method must use? when you find that prototype let me know! |
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I am trying to imagine the set and combination of early circumstances that could have produced you trauma as defined by Freud could be anything from a simple experience that the individual psyche could not deal with...to severe acts perpetrated on a child, or to others in its vicinity. it is not easy! |
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Err what ? I mean marxism doesnt work !
USSR..China..eastern Europe, Cuba, Ethiopia...NOT A SINGLE marxist state worked...that is success rate of 0%, after several nations have tried to implement his theory. Thus the theory is garbage and utter shyte. It is also a fact that marxists kill/killed far far more innocent people than capitalists do- in this case, not only is marxism a fantasical delusion, it is also more barbaric.
I wondering the same thing about you and your white-hatred. Wouldn't be surprised if you is the product of a whiteman raping a black woman. it is not easy! What also isnt easy is to become trained enough in science to comment on GW. Something that you aint trained in and I am. Thus your words have no value against mine in ANY scientific forum- is that in any way not clear ? Last edited on Wed Jul 18th, 2007 09:59 pm by WIfan |
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What also isnt easy is to become trained enough in science to comment on GW. Something that you aint trained in and I am. Thus your words have no value against mine in ANY scientific forum- is that in any way not clear what makes you so catergorical in this..? how do you know? who tells you ..you are so solid in science? all these are claims of yours....I i simply do not bother to talk with you for as i said...and listen closely you ignoramus: there is nothing to learn, to gain of value in a prolonged discourse with you...for all the science you call, you are a rigorous ass, rather than rigorously scientific, bringing to bear on debate the principles capable of stretching that debate, opening up insights, so that all participants come out feeling enlightened..enlightened in fact. go back over all the discussions we have had and there is nothing new that comes out of it, no growth nutten. all it consistently boils down to is a contest between you and your superior knowledge and talents.... and the very principles we must engage in that may make the discussion worthwhile I mean I saw this with you a long time ago and gave up...pissing you of, stretching you out, pulling your leg your leg, making an ass out of you....by the power of suggestion..the rat in laboratory became what our discourse was all about. you did not escape like the other fellow on cc.com supposedly escaped from you . you are still here in my sights. still pulled and ,manipulated stretched out..all your contents on the table, exposed like the ass you are. and what is worse I had been telling you all along and you were still caught in my headlights, unable to get out from my on-rushing wheels, as mesmerised as those next door , tyoically westindian treating a jackass like you with human concern for you well-being and personal development. I never made that mistake with you..for I long ago realised hat so very human component of the westindian make-up is a weakness in work constructed by europe. if we insist on playing in sucjh waters we must displace europe in the world and replace its worlkd with ours which would make it safe for our sensibility to dominate and so safe for us to live in such a manner. I doh play that way asshoile. there is no possibile way for you to play round my side..for you are a known quantity...instantaneously. and if not I alwasy look at people within the outer limits of the possible potential that exisist in thie european constructred criminalk realiuty we fundtion in. anything is possible withing thsoe walls, strangeloves coming out of the woodwork. you think you are unique? there are Paul Bernados and people of trhat ilk on every extreme everwhere. if we are not on the lokout we will be caught napping. thats why westindisn are alwasy caught napping. but not me! dont yu see my talk...how I have spoked from the start here and on CC.com remember one of the first posts I made on the front page here ..or was it in the backroom..one of the first posts there......a long comprehensive list of european atrocity in the worl..including the Shakenaze zionist jes of Israel who collected Arab and jewish children and carted them off for experiment in the USA....as well as performed devilsih experiments on their own right there in Israel. and you are abnsolutely into this crap from all you have exposed about yourself, the awesternised righ-wing nature you have exposed yourself to be. dont you realize all yoiu speak of on that post is the concomittant of bering europeanised wightwing? . the social concomittant is torture, ritual murder, genocide, human experiment of all kinds..all sorts of insane crappy things this I knew about you from the minute you began to speak in the pages cc.com/446 it is like hitler all over again and the fascists. you were calling me stalinmist but I knew you to be fascist. and you expposurte of yourself next door as experimenting with the posteres there further expose you as I have seen you from the start. that is why I have beassidously warning everyone about the true danger you represent. you do have some ability but you are a completley useless individual, anti human, out of the loop, a danfger to society if you get loose with some power. when was the last time you had sex with a real woman? when was the last time you dealt with ordinary human issues....love, break-up and restart, party a little, danced etc?when was the last time you looked at a porno move, went a porn shop..sex is norman so a visit to a porn shop is not a sin! the reasons you got away from them on CC.com is because as i said they refuse to move outside the box..the intellectual box their success has placed them in. then there is the westindian sensibility to be kind and concerned for people, especially when they are young abd bright, and especially when they are not black. they can be harsh on other blacks from the start regardless. but they are not from the start with outsiders such as you. but now that you have exposed yourself I believe they will take great pains to smoke your rass out everywhere you may try to yuh skunt. who is the subject now skunt..who the fool, the the rat in the labyrinth? 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I am an electrical engineer. Yes, i am VERY solid in science. I am so categoric on this because you've already demonstrated several times your inability to grasp science in a methodical way. i simply do not bother to talk with you for as i said. Ummm..hello mr delusional skunt, you ARE talking to me in that post, you talk to me in stupidly huge posts filled with cr@p and yet you deny it...you need to go to a doctah fast...your delusions are getting way too bad these days. so that all participants come out feeling enlightened..enlightened in fact. many have come out feeling enlightened and many have said so- even here. You unfortunately will always come out feeling like a skunt because you ARE a skunt. The teacher cannot teach the ones who refuse to learn- nor can the teacher mek one feel good about themselves when they are a boulder-pon-shoulder skunt. So in short, you feeling unenlightened after discoursing with me is YOUR shortcomming, not mine. you are still here in my sights. still pulled and ,manipulated stretched out..all your contents on the table, exposed like the ass you are Nice try, rat. It is you who go on with the 'i going weh, i cyan tek it no more' stuff, not me. You arnt intellectually capable enough to make me dance. And all it took was one post for me to bring you, the rat, back into the maze. Nice try but no cigar, chump. the concomittant of bering europeanised wightwing? . I dont care whether it is or it isnt. Nobody is wrong 100% of the time- which is why i dont care WHO adopts what issue but whether the ISSUE ITSELF is valid or not. if that is the concomittant of the europeanized right-wing, then i say good on them for getting something right. And that is the difference between YOU and ME- i am capable of forming my own opinion, due to my posession of knowledge scientific to guage the veracity of an argument. Whereas YOU are the clueless idiot limited to reading second-hand opinions- the moron who walks in and goes 'just gimme the bottomline, no techno-babble'. As i said before, when your superiors talk about science, just shut up and listen. YOU do not hold the authority to challenge moi in a scientific pronoucement- is THAT clear to yo or not ? the awesternised righ-wing nature you have exposed yourself to be. Err no...it is YOU who has exposed himself to be a boulder-pon-shoulder scarred descandant of slaves with an identity crisis and insecurity complex.
Three nights ago. How is this important ? when was the last time you looked at a porno move, went a porn shop..sex is norman so a visit to a porn shop is not a sin! It was more than six years ago,in my teenage years. Nothing against porn- except that it is for the kids and those who ent get any ( or like you, stuck with the only one you dont wanna get any from). Again, all irrelevant dribble of the intellectually bested. Now..get back to Global warming- the issue of this thread..the issue you ran away from the moment your superior in this topic (me), joined the debate. Last edited on Wed Jul 18th, 2007 10:53 pm by WIfan |
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the truth lies in what is above your last post...immediately above. you do not have to defeat me..defeat the scientists who have claimed and backed it u.... that warming is due to to factors that have little to with current human activity...that it is long term and does not pose a threat to human life. they have proven that the world has been warmer than it is now and is predicted to get.... without the dire consequences predicted by skunt Gore. I did not make my post to narrow it down to a debate between my skiils in science and yours. you have come to my post and degraded the dam thing, brought it down to your sick squabbling level, the level you drag everwhere with you seeking to prove your superiority. you walk into the debate establish your superiority and subsume all else into the fights you cause as a result to prove yourself superior..challenging all who oppose you as to who is more learned brighter etc. let me put it to you clearly one more time- the last fucking time.: who gives a fuck whether you are superior or not, whetheher you know more than this or that person, whether you are smarter superior etc. why dont you fuck off somewhere with all that waste of time useless bullshit. lets do this eh wifan..and after just disahfuckingpear will you: tek win! you are all you say you are, so superior the polar ice caps melt, the stars become green and jesus returns to worship at your fucking feet. now that you have won all that... are humans freed from war and capitalist manipualtion of all and everythging causing all manner of social dislocation... have all been made secure in food, freed from drought and pestilence, crime and all that beset humans... ;isten asshole! nutten in this world depends on anything or anyway you may be, superior inferior...whether you tall or short, pink or blue.... period. this thread was not established for any such purpose as it has devovled to this due to you..your participation. man I do not appreciate you additions to my post..I would be happy if you stayed away, leaving us lesser folk to paddle our way to whatver little truth we mae glean without you. nutten in this world depends on you at all regardless of who and what you are. so run along will you, you fucking headache. too bad a couple of aspirin wont make you disappear. I will not talk to you in future if you persist will all this argumentative bullshit of yours. it is time for you to grow to up...or f'... off yu hear. Last edited on Wed Jul 18th, 2007 11:29 pm by mapoui |
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defeat the scientist who have claimed and backed it up that warming is due to to factors that have little to with current hguman activitry Have already done so - defeating the mouth-pieces of oil corporations who stand to lose the most is not a hard task. you have come to my post and degraded the dam thing, brought ti wodn to you sick squabbling level, the level you drag everwhere with you seeking to prove your superiority. you walk into the debate establish you superiority and subsume all else into the fights you seek to prove yourself superior..challenging all who oppose you as who is more learned et hahaahahahhaha Whinings of the beaten man, left without a place to run and hide. Yes, qualification is an issue- if you talking physics and one man is a physics MSc and the other is a clueless undereducated skunt like you, it is obvious that the MSc knows wtf he is talking about. Same case here- notice it is I who wanna go back to global warming debate and yuh hiding from it, because you KNOW that the moment you make a point relating to GW being unscientific, i will blow it apart like the drivel it is ! PS: Calm down labrat..calm down..all that huge-font shouting really discrediting yuh, yuh know....and next time yuh wanna steal my line and play mastah of puppets, remember dat it is the mastah who makes the puppet dance, not the other way round. Last edited on Wed Jul 18th, 2007 11:27 pm by WIfan |
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Whinings of the beaten man, left without a place to run and hide. yu are mad Wifam....wh is beaten here, where, anywhere by you save being absolutely tired of the waste fot ime you have engendered here and that we have allowed ourselves to get involved in because of you...you absolute iron ass. beaten what how where,? you simply cannot understand ...there is nothing ..no point on whaich anything of value turns where yu personally and indivdually are concerned. it does not matter if you are einstein to the power of exponent. it is till fuck you if you are aas your are a damw wasteful full of himself fool. dont you get it!!!? let me whisper it in your ear!you are a wasteful unimportant, insignificnat asshole,regardles of your schooling, abilities etc....uase all of it is put to no useful purpose at all not even in discourse and debate. you are a dam fool prone to experiment with people expsoing you sense of superiority as a danger to ordinary fork..indeed to all folks. you have revealed yourself as someone who must be carefull monitored for fear of what you may do to people, as you see yourself as so superior other people are just moths to be used as you see fit. it is not about ou but what you can contribute to the good and development of the process we are all a aprt of. you are a divisive and dangerous element in the human process and you do not know it. you feel you are all of it rther the a problematic part of the whole. but go long man! you have not defeated anyone but please continue to feel that you have. and go for more of these victories...go win as many as you can. play out your life winning these victories. at least you would be occupied with innocuities...not running large things than cam harm lots of people. I would expect from now on few people will speak with you in these parts...have a nice life. |
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beaten what how where,? By you ignoring points you cannot answer, playing the race card when a logical explanation and quoting facts shows you up for being a hack, etc etc, you've beaten your own arguments here. All i've had to do is shine the light. uase all of it is put to no useful purpose at all not even in discourse and debate. Pronouncement of a clueless and under-educated idiot. you sense of superiority as a danger to ordinary fork..indeed to all folks. Sorry bro- but some of us are just made better in some regards than others- my field is logic and facts while yours is race-card playing chip-pon-shoulda retardation. let us stick to what we know best- you the figments of fancy and me the logician with facts. And since in an argument of facts, the logician will always whack a hack like you outta the park, i can understand your sense of inferiority. but what you can contribute to the good and development of the process we are all a aprt of. Agreed. My contributions with the truth, facts and logic far outstrips your rantings and afro-centric nonsense prism of the world. You are a lost person without a heritage- find your identity first before you wish to comment on issues of the world that you are clueless about. you have not defeated anyone but please continue to feel that you have. Sorry but i ent tooting my own horn here- it has been commented on here before, by the audience (the other posters here) on how blitheringly incorrect you are and have gotten your a$$-kicked in a debate. But i cant blame you for being in denial- it must scar a lot to have 99% of your beleifs debunked as figments of your imagination. not running large things than cam harm lots of people. Too bad for you that i am too politically inclined not to get involved in politics in the future. If i ever get elected,i will look up your old sorry a$$ to burn it some more.
Hey retard, newsflash : You aint any more welcome here than I am according to the moderators and the citizens here. Now go whine some more for pity. You've lost it by losing your temper- as clearly indicated with your desperate attempts at being heard by bolding & magnifying your text. I suggest you seek help, O scarred one. Beginning with your victim-blackman complex. Last edited on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 02:12 am by WIfan |
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garyg Joined: Feb 26, 2004 Posts: 8259 7/14/07 4:54:25 PM In reply to Trex You are one sad bastard for you to lie over and over and over and over again. Serious question. Does lying make you feel like a man? A man who continuously lies in order to try and win an argument is considered a smart man? A bright man? WOW Same knife stick sheep......stick goat! I think its time people recognise WI Fan for who he is. He has also been described as a pathological liar and I don`t think he should be hiding behind his career to mask who he really is. apparently he is not smart enough to overcome lying, nor have the ability to engineer a solution for such a weakness, such a chronic disease. Maybe he also lacks the ability to engineer an apology to the Old lady, or even that Headley tape as Jah jah said. Speaking about what he studied or not cannot really mask who he really is deep down. His character is a function of his inward tendencies and outward influences, and it has certainly been found wanting. His heart is in a very bad state . One must understand that if you study some science and engineering, it won`t necassarily cure you of the diseases like hatred, pathological lying, racism,untermenshenticsm homsexuality, perversion, arrogance, disrespect for older women and even self respect, which will also allow someone to respect others. maybe he is not smart enough to realise that, or maybe he thinks many aren`t smart enough to realise that so he will remain conceited, have an inflated view of himself and thinks a career path defines who he is as a human being. |
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Hey retard, newsflash : You aint any more welcome here than I am according to the moderators and the citizens here. Now go whine some more for pity. You've lost it by losing your temper- as clearly indicated with your desperate attempts at being heard by bolding & magnifying your text. I suggest you seek help, O scarred one. Beginning with your victim-blackman complex I suppose they confided that to you did they..... that I am now welcome....? the bolding was to make sure you heard the message being as hard of hearing as you are. and you do piss me off and I dont hide my feeling smuch. but see why you piss me off couldnt you..... for I know you are also blind? yu are such a waste thats what...such a senseless waste....... man oh man! the dead futility of such a human being as you in existence. oh jesus crist! you too are human.... which does not raise hopes high. |
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Putting the rantings of others wont serve anything more than to highlight your own plight. Nobody said that you are the only retard around on the net- but like a cretin, you now have to bring in friends to deal with me. Hahahahahaha.. Like i said chump- GET BACK TO GLOBAL WARMING. Dont fear- don't hide- lets see your 'facts' that i can whack outta the ballpark as nonsense. WCF, do you see how the old p*ssy is running away from the main issue ? |
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nice try to hide the fact that you bolded it coz you lost it in anger. I don't fail to notice your regular-print posts, so no reason to bold it if it was to get my attention only. As i said, chump, try that nonsense to someone who ent logically skilled. but see why you piss me off couldnt you..... for I know you are also blind? I know why i piss you off. I am more qualified than you and almost half your age- if not younger. Seen more of the world, backs up my chat with facts corroborrated by figures of authority in the scientific community- your nonsense gets trashed and thus you got a complex happening. Unlike others, who rarely have a problem with me, you and a select few dogmatic retards get really traumatized at me destroying your dogma. Add to that your inferiority complex for being a chip-pon-should blackman and your deluded retardation to be an old git and still be a communist, its not hard to figure out what a total mess you are as a person. you too are human.... which does not raise hopes high. Speak that in front of a mirror and you will have spoken the first accurate statement all day. Now hurry to the mirror ! Go! Last edited on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 02:28 am by WIfan |
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WIfan wrote: Putting the rantings of others wont serve anything more than to highlight your own plight. I have no idea what you are talking sbout man. I gues I have to go back to the early posts to see some challenge you established to me personally. I posted what I believe..and I am not meterologist so I cannot add scientifc enquiry carried out by me on the issue. global warming as led by Al Gor, a notoriously nasty politician with record to match ....leadre of his class...starts with a disadvantage with sensible people, simply because of his presence..Gore... at the head of the project. I pointed out how always in such 'scars' as I call them there is always a hidden agenda against the peoples interest.....as FOIA has proven. then the opposing scientists claim seems absolutely logical: that the earth at times in its unimaginably long history has been warmer that it is now, warmer that it is projeted to get but without the consequences Gore trumpets. then when one considers the projected solutions to global warming, one can easily dislimm the theat to the developing world for it will have to bear a truly disproportionate quantiof pain in the proposed corrections..which would just about abort any chance there is of ever getting out of poverty into a material development that can take care of the people there. what do I need science to tell me when what i am dealing with and the answers I have given are eqauliy scientifice. do you deny my claim about the M.O of the west with all these programs from the start of them, supposedly in the best interest of humanity? the imperical evidence is conclusive, obvious, damming! are the scientists credible when they claim that even with the highest projected warming, there will be no flooding and all the scares Gore mongers? do you doubt that winter is no barrier to the malaria carrying mosquito Egypti...that malaria stated in the cold first not in the warm..or at least was contemporaneous with incidence in the warm as in the cold. that eradicatin and prevention, , better hygene in the west has led to the elimination of the malaria threat... not winter. that is relative to the jackass threat implanted in the idea of the spread of tropical weather further north..carryng tropical desesase with such a spread. isnt that valid and scietific and historic as the records corroborate every bit of it? there is no way I can take Global warming seriously! It is like globalisation and IMF/WB/WTO bullshit monetarist theory, that was supposed to raise the third world out of povert....instead sank it deeper into debt...the same programs pushed assidouously by the west as panacea for the developing world....that Latin America is now spits out whole after Argentina was brought to its knees with the economic crackpottery geared-up to waste developing finally and totally the cry now is banko del sur, self reliant development and fuck the west and its jaundiced economic manipulations set up to keept the develoiping world down. the etiology of the global warming crisis is not good..its pedigree and provenance exceedingly poor, rooted in a century of western bullshit and economic exploitation of the rest of the planet. I will put my head on a block here...that GW will turn out to be another crock of shit like the war on drugs, or no child left behind, or compassionate conservatism...or any number of bullshit progrms set up with max popm to hype the humanistic aspects which are always mere words to fool americans or make them feel better about their government beating the shit out of the developing world, and taking their goods. so I do not have to do any research to prove anything...to profer up any scientific justification for my position. fuck that! all I have to do as a third-worlder is go about my development, trusting own experts. the onus is on Gore..and you... to prove beyond a doubt that your prognoistications are true, correct, precise. its all your jackass business not mine. is you start up the shit not me. I dont have to prove a damm thing...nor engage assholes like you in wasting and misdirecting debate. the science is not the fucking point at all. the point is the continued locking down of the deveoping world..thats why I made the post in the first plac..to encourage debate on this apsect of tghe issue..... not to encourage you to appear with all your pointless fuckery. it is up tp yu to prove not me....and yu better move fast for time is running out on you,....because the developing world is moving in the right direction...towards development and let global warming fall where the fuck it might. 'is allyuh trying to save the developming world in allyuh way' yeh right! we trying to do so in the way we see as right. we have one choice: develop or die. and even if global warming is true..which could hardly be the case... what fucking difference does it make ayuh ? none at all.... for the supposed solution to global warming is no development for us and so we die. and if we do not develop we do what..... die ...same rass way!!!! so there is ABSOLUTELY NO KISS MY ASS ALTERNATIVE TO OUR DEVELOPMENT ANYWAY. so right or wrong fuck Glaobal Warming and Fuck Al Gore to the fifth power of exponent..and you too to the the same degree.  Last edited on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 03:25 am by mapoui |
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Mapster , You know WIfan is a Homosexual ???? |
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ketch_im wrote: Mapster , well what can I say..not that there is anything wrong with it! he should find a lover anyway and get himself busy making family. all this puppeting wont do him any good. one can easily see his masters laughing behind him as they spounce up the idiot mf to attack such as we... on an msb no less. one would think that as a high graduate in engineering he simply would not have an entire day to spend/spare, fucking around on CC.com/446. he would be better use theanyway, time looking for a good man! |
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ketch_im wrote:Mapster , funny thing dat a follower of the religion of CSBs is calling me a homosexual...LOL...homosexuality is a problem in your sex-deprived religion...not with me. |
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one would think that as a high graduate in engineering he simply would not have an entire day to spend/spare, fucking around on CC.com/446. Inferior one, read up about multi-tasking. Posting for 5 min 20 times a day hardly requires me to deviate from my work, which all has advanced deadlines posted. |
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that the earth at times in its unimaginably long history has been warmer that it is now, warmer that it is projeted to get but without the consequences Gore trumpets. That is the problem with you- your half-intelligent brain cannot make sense of global warming and you fall prey to the propaganda of the oil-funded 'scientists'. Yes, its true that the earth does heat up and cool down on its own- but what WE have done, by clear-cutting millions of sq. km. of forests in the last 200 yrs and producing billions of tons of excess CO2 from industrial process, is give the warming trend a big big boost...what would've happened in 100,000 yrs from now is now gonna happen 100 yrs from now. I posted what I believe.. You are niether an expert, nor privvy to facts. Therefore, leave some room for doubt in your belief or else you are nothing but a dogmatic skunt.
Dont confuse YOUR perspective with the truth. YOU might not have heard of Global warming before Al-Gore jumped on the bandwagon- i've followed this debate in scientific circles for the last 15 years, back when Gore was Veep and pooh-poohing global warming. To you, Al Gore is the champion of global warming because you are the ignoramus who needed Gore's politics to get your attention. To me, Al Gore is nuttin but a bandwagonist, jumping on the GW bandwagon for his own political gain. Doesnt mean he is wrong about GW though.
Too fugging bad. Bottomline is, choose between a few generations of material wealth and then annihilation or slower development for longer prosperity and even balance. The temperate lands of the whiteman has one critical advantage- it is NOT the engine of the planet in flora and fauna. The tropics are the engine of biodiversity and life on this planet's lands. Clearcutting tropical forests to mek way for more people is far far more damaging to nature (and thus, us, in the long run) than clearcutting forests in siberia or ireland.
No, your answers are not scientific- they are meaningless propaganda.
No credible scientist denies impending flooding of lowlands due to melting icecaps.
Indeed. the world scientific body accepts global warming as human caused to be conclusive, obvious and damning.
Thats because you are a skunt. its pedigree and provenance exceedingly poor, rooted in a century of western bullshit and economic exploitation of the rest of the planet. Nothing but propaganda from the ultimate materialists willing to fcuk over the planet for material gain of mankind. And as i said, you are not qualified to judge the provenance and pedigree of global warming.
Chosen like a retarded and doomed man. Good job.
Bull-facking-shyte. The world scientific council and UN science body accepts global warming as manmade. Now that the scientific community has spoken as a whole, the onus is indeed on you and a few crack-pot agenda-driven fanatics to prove their case (that GW is bullshit). the onus is on Gore..and you... to prove beyond a doubt that your prognoistications are true, correct, precise. And it has been- the world science council accepts global warming as largely a manmade phenomena.
You should pick the latter option and stop wasting precious oxygen- you are too closeminded and boulder-pon-shoulder to develop.
Only difference is, if you develop slower, the REST OF THE WORLD doesnt die with you. But ofcourse, a marxist has very little clue about ecology and human developmental impact on nature and its impact on us. |
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WIfan wrote: that the earth at times in its unimaginably long history has been warmer that it is now, warmer that it is projeted to get but without the consequences Gore trumpets.
I posted what I believe..
its pedigree and provenance exceedingly poor, rooted in a century of western bullshit and economic exploitation of the rest of the planet.
the onus is on Gore..and you... to prove beyond a doubt that your prognoistications are true, correct, precise.
Take it and shove it up your smart ass.... and await Al Gore to help take some of it up his too...while seeing if both of you can hold strain with it until you resolve it scientifically with you great brains. in the meantime Chavez and Iran are building cars, and Latin America are setting-up Bank Del Sur, while sending the western finacial strangulation institutions straight fucking home. and I hope your science is absolutely right and third world developmentr fries the fucking planet. GW seems like a weapon of mass destruction.... so then by all means use it while trying to survive...and if we cant...we take all allyuh sick and dumb mother-uckers with us...especially you the most complete jackass of all. I will make sure to look fuh yuh skunt to ensure that you enjoy the hottest place of all when the planet fries tuh fuck up. yuh dry, ignorant wooden self should immensely to the fire. prophesy in yuh skunt: God gave Noah the rainbow sign, no more water the fire next time. what you want to avoid the Guy Fawkes party? the dumbest skunt I have ever met. the most stupid and insensitive to his own disparagement and disrespect, the most relentless fool there is, placing himself among not his own kind, inducing the most intense dislike, claim he is playing mind games with us....FOR ABSOLUTLEY NO PROFIT THAT ANYONE CAN DISCERN. talk about a human been with absoluitely no self-respect, seeking abuse to justify his existence. stevie shud ban skuntfan to save him from himself......and to preserve some dignity for Indains.... for the skunt has wrapped himself in Indian racial clothing, seeking to respresent in himself all indians. I know that skuntfan is not representative of India, in no way represent thatanythig of the good qualities of that vast and growingly powerful nation..that he is just lunatic Janatta Dal fringe isnt there supposed to be some valuable reason for the utilisation of anyones time? isnt there supposed to be something like if there it isnt worth it why spend the time? why does this fellow then spend so much time here when he is supposed to be such a graduate that employers in the field should be panting to hire his services...which employment should place such demands on his time at all, to be here at all posting away his bullshit? look here man...your science is a skunt! and if the world had to depened on your scientific analysis then it might as we went and fucked itself. and in the case of global warming it matters not whether you are right or wrong. if your are right then we are all toast for I dont see anydevelping copuntry prepared to use solar energy so that when they cooking they have to turn off the fridge, and when they read they can cook etc. yu tale all those alternaive and go live with by yourself in asmuch as you are a believer and commited to your ideology. in the meantime fuck off willya. now that I havew set up my nicely, energetically..I am off to get some repairs on my car, then to Fort Erie race track for a little betting, relaxation and later on a nicle long drive along the magnificent Niagara Parkwa, along the water of the Niagara river, to the Niagara Falls then turn around and b back hom. Yuh know Indian people love water, flocking to the Ganges yearly. well there are always a lot Indian people along the Parkway enjoying the river water, the park and the scenery, proving the lone, insane, manipulated skunt you are. at least they can come out and enjoy the world while it lasts and they are alive Last edited on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 03:14 pm by mapoui |
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to 446! the fool Wifan does not realise that this Global Warming issue may not be a scientific issue at all. yet the fool has turned our involvement here in this issue into a contest between his own scientific prowess and everybody elses' including mine in particular, which is not on display here. it is my o[inion as I have described that there is no serious existential problem with the wraming of the planet...unless of ocouse the Van Allen belks catchcs afire and we all cook. it is also my opinion that the developing world is not responsibe alone, to keep the planet alive by the sacrifice of the lives and chances and future of its populations. IT MOST DEFINETLY IS NOT! AND THAT IS THE CENTRAL AND BASDIC ISSUE TO GLOBAL WARMING, THE ISSUE THIS POST WAS SET UP TO EXAMINE. THE SCIENC OF GLOBAL WARMING BEDCOMES IMPORTANT ONLY IF THERE IS GENERAL AND CERTAIN AGREEMENT THAT IF THERE ARE DEVELOPMENT SCARIFICES TO BE MADE THAT IT IS DISPORPORTIONATELY SHARED BY THE WEST, WHO HAVE CAUSED THE PROBLEM AND NOT BY THE DEVELOPING WORLD THAT HAS NOT! we did not cause the problem if there is one. and not for a minute must we listen to the west and stop our development, not by a jot, tittle, or fraction of meaasuement. we must in fact seek to increase the pace to bring us to par, involve our citizens to as great an extent as possible preparing as many scientissts and professions of all sorts as we can for it is they who may be able to help us fi there is in fact a probem and a way out can be found. historical lesson has proven to us wer can depend on the west for nothing but more exploitation and rape, war and genocide. NO MATTER WHAT WE MUST RELAY ON OURSELVES NOT ON THE INSANE MURDEROUS GREEDY, LYING AND DUPLICITOUS WEST . LET SKUNTFAN DO THAT! we have adifferent more enlightened, path to follow based on centuries of empirical evidence of the west and the relationship of social and material forces in the world. this planet will not be here forver anyway...one day it too will die at a time when humans are likely to have been long extinc, or gone somewhere else in the universe or evolved into some other form so let it die now then for there is no way by any stretch of reasoning that the develiping world can forgo its development to save the planet from problems caused not by its people but by those the jackass western societies. thats the issue at hand not the science and scare-mongering of a skunt like Al Gore, a very rich man looking out for his own clas. from my pov fuck Al Gore and the global warmers all the way to hell and perdition and let him take his mental sidekick skuntfan with him |
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" I am an electrical engineer. Yes, i am VERY solid in science. " " I am more qualified than you .........." Mapster , I checked .....Simon Fraser is a likkel dinky university in Ottawa.... Even the other likkle dinky Brock Uni ....in St. Catherines is RANKED above it !! Ranked # 21....yes , facting 21st position...... Like one above grade 13 .....lets call WIfain a Grade 14 graduate !! Now it all makes sense ......I tort i was dealing with a Uni qualified individual ALL this time  http://www.univforum.com/canadian-university-ranking.html |
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History has also shown that blackman no different. When the blackman started his expansion ( blackmen= bantu people), they killed & genocided the not-so-black people of Africa ( the Khoisan, nilo-saharans, etc all have stories about the blackman with steel killing them off and tekking their lands). Whether you like it or not, bottomline is, Global warming by human causation is a scientifically established FACT that the world council of science and the UN accepts. Therefore, the onus is on YOU and a few other hacks like yourself, bankrolled by the oil magnates, to keep chatting nonsense and prove GW wrong. from my pov Your pov is propaganda-driven and not based on science. Dat is the problem, skunt! we must in fact seek to increase the pace to bring us to par, involve our citizens to as great an extent as possible preparing as many scientissts and professions of all sorts as we can for it is they who may be able to help us fi there is in fact a probem and a way out can be found. Nobody saying dont do that- all we are saying is, do it without fossil fuel & clear-cutting forests to mek way for feeding more mouths, since you folks breed like rabbits. its a good thing Africa and India has AIDS problem...if humanity is too arrogant and ignorant to put population control on it, its a good thing that nature tek care of it. we did not cause the problem if there is one. False. You are equally at fault for the problem, since the problem started with every-facting-retard on the planet clear-cutting away forests to mek way for more agricultural lands. look here man...your science is a skunt! and if the world had to depened on your scientific analysis then it might as we went and fucked itself Chump, get this straight- YOU have no authority to pronounce verdict on my science- you is NOT qualified enough to do that. Get that through your fugging brain- when i talking about science, the unscientific ones like you should STFU and listen. Last edited on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 07:46 pm by WIfan |
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You checked only your a$$. Simon Fraser is in vancouver and consistently ranked as the top technical insitution in Canada along with UWaterloo. |
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Ranked 21st in Sikh town B.C.... !! Even worse ....doan compare yuh self wid Waterloo !! YOU wear a Turban ???? |
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ketch_im wrote:Ranked 21st in Sikh town B.C.... !! 1. No i dont wear a turban 2. Vancouver is far more of a china-town than sikh town 3. It is ranked 21st overall- and that is because we don't have a fine-arts program and our arts program is limited & sucks. SFU doesnt even offer music in its curriculum. We are a technical institution and in the ranking of technology schools (ie, ranked on Compsci, Engineering & sciences), SFU is consistently #1 and/or #2 in Canada, exchanging places with Uwaterloo every other year. 4. You know squat about SFU to claim it is in Ottawa. Last edited on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 07:56 pm by WIfan |
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Why would I wanna know where a 21st place University is located ?? My side is loaded with Engineering graduates from Queens .... the rest of us are liberal arts grads from U of T and York.... my nephews are from Uni of Calgary and now Uni of Western Ontario The other is a PhD grad in internet security from Penn State !! Check the chart and see what positions those occupy : From 1st position to 6 th then Calgay at 10th ......... 21 st ........???...........Nah mekk joke |
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This is IGNORANCE of the highest order. First yu call the guy homosexual and now you attacking his school and picking on people with turban. And DONT tell me you only asked if he wears a turban! We see the evil in people when they are pushed to their limits. WiFan is well read, and an intellectual match beyond your reach. You choose to get under his skin by these silly and purely ignorant comments. ketch_im wrote: Ranked 21st in Sikh town B.C.... !! |
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Yes but you are behaving like a 5 year ole Ketch, really. By the way, SFU is a damn good university. Just look at the product - WiFan is an Engineering grad and Ketch is NO match for him ketch_im wrote: Why would I wanna know where a 21st place University is located ?? |
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K.k. Esq. : "WiFan is an Engineering grad and Ketch is NO match for him..." "hahahaahaha......... .. |
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the world council of churches is a vested interest whose path in the world is as documented and exposed as legitimae part of the western the status quo..... from the inception of christianity through its evolution into the christian family of churches. the UN and all agencies is the same in the world..a western dominated most undemocratic organisation within which 5 members with vetos hold all the power. the UN is purely poitrical and in total western thrall...quite unrepresentative of overall wrold perspective and interest. when the UN and any relevant agency of it accepts any such program as Gore's Global Warming, scare mongering, it means little more that an expression of western interest..a partisan interest, quite in keeping entirely with western intent and plan for the world...as entirely without or outside the overall interest of the majority on planet Earth. as I keep pointing oput ...you keep basing your arguments entirely on status qup positions, science...as well as fringe Coonian intellectualism..plus you own takes which places Indian at the centre of everything ancient when it comes to the story of humanity. Sir K bigs you up as intellectually grand. part of that is ethnocentric response as Ketchy seems to be attacking Indians and Indian cultural/religious wear...but only seems to be so attacking. you do have ability as all here and next door would be willing to admit. that is not a problem. but intellectual and scholar holds an academic responsibility that is properly expressed by Sigmund Freud: No consideration, however, will move me to set aside truth in favour of supposed national interests. Moreover, the elucidation of the mere facts of the problem may be expected to deepen our insight into the situation with which they are concerned* Freud had been arguing that Moses was an Egyption...and no representative in any way or consistentr with the phenotype of the then or now current Jewish population of the world. ass such Freud, a Jew himself in his time, was brought under great pressure for he was taking the greatst Jewisn Icon away from the Jewish people, while seeking to place him, Moses acurately, historically. Freud said: To deny a people the man whom it praises as the greatest of its sons is not a deed to be undertalen lightly - especially by one belonging to that people. but truth was/is all im[plying that the responsibility of the intellectual/scholar is to truth and humanity and nothing but that truth. that quality that Freud declares as basic can be foundfd in all the great scholars in their work, the product they leave for us to detemine the quality of. often one digging into the work of a schjolar can detect mighty struggles to deal effectively with the truth by them, fighting contrarty tendencies in ther souls to represent the truth and not sectarian principles. that is the corruption in Wifan...what I have been trying to point out to him, pareticualry in my response to Global Warming. GW as all issues is the pproduct of centuries of modern histo, a continuing and most recent erruption of the war between the classes. Wifan is thoug full of ability is narrow, infantile and egocentric to such a dfegree as to render him the foll all recognise and try to warn him off. but he is so ridiculously, unrelentingly focused it seems impossible for him to see hear, and learn. the content in his head, however it got there is all he is concerned about. no other opinion o\is of any concern to him. what Wifan engages in is not intellectualism which must to contain a basic democratic element to attain its best expression. I beg Sir k to dislimm this element in Wifans productions here and expose it for all to see. when Wifan goes back and compares for eg the his take on the behaviour of Blac conquerors of ancient times to current western behavior he hardly sees the narowness of such intellectualism. he eschews all the development of the past 10 thousand years, and in th face of the positves of that development excusess the atricties of thre dinopsausr who still in 2007 perpetrate behaviour we knwo to be thousands of years old. it is as if Francis Bacon, Hegel, Rosseau, Dante, Marx, Engels, Dickens, Melville, Twain, DuBois, Padmore and Nkrumah, HG Wells and Conan Doyle, Darwin, the revolution of 1648 - Cromwell and the levellers, the gloriois revolution of '89. Wilberforce and the abolitionists, the Repeal of the corn Laws, the French revolutions of 1789,1848 and 1871...the Haitian revolution of 1791-1804 and the Russian of 1917...and all those mean in the evolution of the human species, to our understandg of our origins and conditions of existence, the stage of our material amd social development and what we face as biological beings and how we now know we must organise life to meet the challeges of going on indefinetly our current level has helped reveal to us. n!!! blac conquerors used to behave that way 10 thousand years ago.... so it is right and justifiable for white conquerors to do the same currently...no intervening human growth need mitigate the savagery there is no progress with Wifans intellectualism Sir K. his productions on this and the sister msb are nortoriously backward and childish,hubristic, exceedingly narrow of perspective....which establishes that ability is one thing...wisdom, intelligence, common sense are others all entirely. |
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the world council of churches is a vested interest whose path in the world is as documented and exposed as legitimae part of the western the status quo..... from the inception of christianity through its evolution into the christian family of churches. the UN and all agencies is the same in the world..a western dominated most undemocratic organisation within which 5 members with vetos hold all the power. the UN is purely poitrical and in total western thrall...quite unrepresentative of overall wrold perspective and interest. when the UN and any relevant agency of it accepts any such program as Gore's Global Warming, scare mongering, it means little more that an expression of western interest..a partisan interest, quite in keeping entirely with western intent and plan for the world...as entirely without or outside the overall interest of the majority on planet Earth. as I keep pointing oput ...you keep basing your arguments entirely on status qup positions, science...as well as fringe Coonian intellectualism..plus you own takes which places Indian at the centre of everything ancient when it comes to the story of humanity. Sir K bigs up Wifan as intellectually grand. part of that surely is ethnocentric response as Ketchy seems to be attacking Indians and Indian cultural/religious wear...but only seems to be so attacking as far as I know. Wifan does have ability as all here and next door would be willing to admit. that is not a problem. but intellectual and scholar hold an academic responsibility that is properly expressed by Sigmund Freud: "No consideration, however, will move me to set aside truth in favour of supposed national interests. Moreover, the elucidation of the mere facts of the problem may be expected to deepen our insight into the situation with which they are concerned*" Freud had been arguing that Moses was an Egyption...and no representative in any way or consistentr with the phenotype of the then or now current Jewish population of the world. such as Freud, a Jew himself in his time, was brought under great pressure for he was taking the greatset Jewisn Icon away from the Jewish people, while seeking to place him, Moses, acurately, historically. Freud said: " To deny a people the man whom it praises as the greatest of its sons is not a deed to be undertaken lightly - especially by one belonging to that people." but truth was/is all implying that the responsibility of the intellectual/scholar is to truth and humanity and nothing but that truth. that quality that Freud declares as basic can be found in all the great scholars in their work, the product they leave for us to detemine the quality of. often digging into the work of a scholar one can detect mighty struggles to deal effectively with the truth by them, fighting contrary tendencies in their souls to represent the truth and not sectarian principles. that is the corruption in Wifan...what I have been trying to point out to him, particularly in my response to Global Warming. GW as all such current issues is the product of centuries of modern history, the continuing and most recent erruption of the war between the classes. Wifan though full of ability is narrow, infantile and egocentric to such a degree as to render him the fool all recognise and try to warn him off. but he is so ridiculously, unrelentingly focused on the content in his head, it seems impossible for him to see, hear, and learn. the content in his head, however it got there is all he is concerned about. no other opinion or fact, or body of fact, is of any concern to him. what Wifan engages in is not intellectualism which must contain a basic democratic element to attain its best expression. I beg Sir k to dislimm this element in Wifans productions here and expose it for all to see. when Wifan goes back and exposes his take on the behaviour of Blac conquerors of ancient times, comparibng this to current western behavior, he hardly sees the narowness of such intellectualism..when he justifies curent western behaviour on this past example. Wifan eschews all the development of the past 10 thousand years, and in th face of the positves of that development, excusess the current atrocities of the dinosaurs, who st, in 200, perpetrate behaviour we know to be thousands of years old. which is one basis reason for my previous discripition of George Bush for eg as having walked straight out of the pages of european history of at least 1200 years ago. I mean to look at the modern configuration of the world politically and economically, socially as well, one would think that this what Arthur Koestler had in mind...at least what he described as the history of eastern europe in the 7 and 8 centuries....the then struggle BETWEEN ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY WITH kAZARIA IN THE MIDDLE..THE SAME kAZARIA WHCIH HAD CONVERTED TO jUDAISM.... THEN USED BETRAYED AND DEFEATED BY THE OLD EAST ROMAN EMPIRE IN COLLUSION WITH THE RUS.... AND THE CONVERTED ASHKANAZE JEWS DISPERSED INTO THE RUS ENTITY - THEN BECOMING RUSSIA, WHAT IS NOW POLAND, GERMANY, AUSTRIA ETC. it is as if we are still in the midst of that strruggle 1200 years later for Wifan, it is as if Francis Bacon, Hegel, Rosseau, Dante, Marx, Engels, Dickens, Melville, Twain, DuBois, Padmore and Nkrumah, HG Wells and Conan Doyle, Darwin, the revolution of 1648 - Cromwell and the levellers, the gloriois revolution of '89. Wilberforce and the abolitionists, the Repeal of the corn Laws, the French revolutions of 1789,1848 and 1871...the Haitian revolution of 1791-1804 and the Russian of 1917...and all those mean in the evolution of the human species, to our understandg of our origins and conditions of existence, the stage of our material amd social development and what we face as biological beings and how we now know we must organise life to meet the challeges of going on indefinetly our current level has helped reveal to us. no!!! blac conquerors used to behave that way 10 thousand years ago.... so it is right and justifiable for white conquerors to do the same currently...no intervening human growth need mitigate the savagery there is no progress with Wifans intellectualism Sir K. his productions on this and the sister msb are nortoriously backward and childish,hubristic, exceedingly narrow of perspective....which establishes that ability is one thing...wisdom, intelligence, common sense are others all entirely. *Sigmund Freud: Moses and Monotheism Vintage Books ( Random House) 1967 Pa 1..page 3 Moses an Egyptian! Arthur Koestler: The 13th Tribe - The Khazar Empire And Its Heritage Omni Publications 1976 Last edited on Fri Jul 20th, 2007 05:56 am by mapoui |
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J.J Kakabelly wrote : " WiFan is an Engineering grad and Ketch is NO match for him " Bannah ....you too funny !!! A grade 14 grad wanting to match WITS with me and you appoint yuhself Coach : What's with you ??? Check with your sources at York U ( you know who ) you' ll get a better understanding ....... |
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" Yes but you are behaving like a 5 year ole Ketch, really." Yeah right , Kaka ......... YOU are exposing yuhself as a WIfan ......SUPPORTER !! BUT that's arrrite .....sometimes Sir b mek perfect sense : " support yuh own " there is no progress with Wifans intellectualism Sir K. his productions on this and the sister msb are nortoriously backward and childish,hubristic, exceedingly narrow of perspective....which establishes that ability is one thing...wisdom, intelligence, common sense are others all entirely." Last edited on Fri Jul 20th, 2007 05:56 am by ketch_im |
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Mapoui seh: " Sir K bigs you up as intellectually grand. part of that is ethnocentric response as Ketchy seems to be attacking Indians and Indian cultural/religious wear... but only seems to be so attacking." Mapster , Lemme make myself perfectly CLEAR ........ In GUYANA ......Hindus do NOT care about the well being of Muslims .... IN any part of the world .... WIFan ...........brings out the best of Sir K ......... |
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Queen's university, Sci-03 Alumnus here, buddy. SFU 06 MASc alumnus too. TYVM- come again!
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Take it and shove it up your smart ass.... and await Al Gore to help take some of it up his too...while seeing if both of you can hold strain with it until you resolve it scientifically with you great brains. Err look chump- do not link me with Gore here. Gore's stuff is not all accurate but the gist of his picture is pretty accurate- we are bolloxed unless we stop very soon. And as i said to you before, Global warming as a science existed before Gore came long. Maybe your ignorant, out of touch and unscientific sh!t for brains didnt know of it before but i happen to be very much IN THE LOOP as far as science goes. So stfu and defer to my judgement here- unless you wanna keep proving yourself to be an arrogant skunt without knowledge or qualification, yet going up against someone infinitely more qualified in this field than you are. and I hope your science is absolutely right and third world developmentr fries the fucking planet. True marxist nature comes out afterall- nothing more than a materialistic and selfish whore you are, maphead. A narrowminded skunt who's viewpoint is restricted only to the betterment (and that too, a misconcieved notion of betterment) of his species alone. we take all allyuh sick and dumb mother-uckers with us...especially you the most complete jackass of all. Problem dumbass, is you also take the earth with you. If we do not stop, there wont be anything more than microbial life on the earth's surface for millions and millions of years and earth may never have another sentient species. And all for your materialistic greed. Funny! prophesy in yuh skunt: God gave Noah the rainbow sign, no more water the fire next time. Keep your God bull$hite outta this. FOR ABSOLUTLEY NO PROFIT THAT ANYONE CAN DISCERN. Key words: that *YOU* can't discern. yuh dry, ignorant wooden self should immensely to the fire. I can garantee you- if you keep up your global warming denial, it wont even boil down to our qualifications on who is and who isnt more ignorant on this. As it stands today, chump, my paper has FAR more validity than your's- hell, your paper wont even be PUBLISHED by any science magazine or circular. So know who the ignorant one here is- YOU and only YOU!.
You forgot to mention that not all veto members are western. And this is NOT a subject open to UN vote- you bely your ignorance on this issue- nobody said that UN wasn't western dominated or that it is shambolic- but the ONLY field in the UN that has credibility is its monitoring of world sciences- which is decieded by concensus of world science body presenting its arguments to the UN. Sorry but i expected this common line from you and it ent flying.
Get one thing straight- global warming isnt Gore's. He jumped on the bandwagon a few years ago- global warming as a science has been researched into since the mid 1990s- when Gore himself was pooh-poohing it. Just because your out of touch, out of loop, skuntface didnt hear about global warming until Gore's movie came out, doesnt mean it is Gore's global warming. as I keep pointing oput ...you keep basing your arguments entirely on status qup positions, science...as well as fringe Coonian intellectualism. Hey dumb-fcuk, i've already countered your baseless Coonian accusations- something i dont see you addressing. Instead like a mindless fanatic, you keep repeating Coonian in the most dishonest attempt of argumentativeness. And as i said- you are NOT qualified to point anything out to me scientifically. Is that, in any way, not clear ? If you had an iota of common sense and humility, you'd defer to someone your super in knowledge in this field- far far knowledgable, infact. part of that surely is ethnocentric response as Look, black-superiorist racist, not everyone here thinks along ethnocentric lines kike your chip-pon-shoulda self does. what I have been trying to point out to him, pareticualry in my response to Global Warming. GW as all issues is the pproduct of centuries of modern histo, a continuing and most recent erruption of the war between the classes. Again i say- you are nowhere qualified enough to point ANYTHING about global warming and the sciene behind it to me. I am far more qualified than you are in sciences, far more trained, far more aware. You are just a brainless propaganda-ist, who pounces on any propaganda that is anti-west and this is one of the prime such propagandas, since the ignorance of people on global warming is astonishing. If you had an IOTA of humility and self resepect in your body, you'd come to me as a STUDENT, asking me to TEACH you the science behind global warming. For it is a fact that i know far far more about sciences than you ever will-given you little you know compared to most. Instead, you try to tell me that my perspective is wrong- when i can easily SEE the science and verify it BY MYSELF unlike you. what Wifan engages in is not intellectualism which must to contain a basic democratic element to attain its best expression. Intellecutalism is not a democracy. It is logic and only logic. Doesnt matter what the common consensus is on global warming if they happen to be FAR LESS educated than i am in sciences. it is logic and logic is neither a slave to democracy or dictatorship. blac conquerors used to behave that way 10 thousand years ago.... so it is right and justifiable for white conquerors to do the same currently Who said 10,000 years ago ? black conquerors didnt start their conquering march till 2000 years ago, when black people found steel. Black people (and your ancestors) are Bantu people. NOT all hafricans like you clueless, cultureless and heritage-less afro-americans/afro-caribbeans think. It is only the racist afro-americans/afro-caribbeans, influenced (unfortunately) by centuries of racist environment of the white-dominated americas that think Africa to be black. As the book Guns, Germs & Steel by Jared Diamond proves(and his sources are verified through the highest of universtity-mandated standards), black only applies to the Bantu people, much like how white only applies to north europeans by the general viewpoint of the world. The author, due to further accuracy in social 'science', discards the EUROPEAN or the slave-descendant viewpoint of what is black/what is white- he showed picture of over 50 different ethnic groups from around the world to a test subject of 2000 people of highly diverse mix (and in various nations too) to get an idea about what the WORLD thinks to be black. And sure enough, most of the world thinks the north/central europeans to be 'white', the Bantu of Africa (from which 99% of black slaves in the new world descend from btw) as black, people with distinctive 'east-asian' eyes as 'east asians/orientals' and everyone else as 'other/mixed'. This includes the khoi-san, the nilo-saharans, the egypto-sudanese, etc etc- most of whom the slave-descendants and the master-descendants of north america think to be black. He proves quite categorically that even in nilo-saharan places, where no whiteman has been in there in any contact with the villagers, they do not consider themselves BLACK and BLACK is reserved for the bantu people only. They, like most of the world, consider themselves colored people. And i wasn't justifying anything- merely saying that most of what you accuse the whiteman of, the blackman is guilty of it just a few centuries/1000 yrs before the whiteman got there. So it is nothing more than chip-pon-shoulda of your own limited experience and prejudice that is talking. Anyways, i don't blame you for your ignorance- afterall, you barely know Eurasia- the land that is by far the most diverse, the most innovative and the leading producer of civilization in mankind's history for the last 10,000 years or more. 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I dont have a problem with muslims- muslims are people. I have a problem with the barbaric faith of Islam. thats all really. And despite your victim mentality, it is a FACT that a hindu-majority nation like India treats its muslims FAR better than a muslim majority nation like Pakistan treats non-muslims! As i said before, from Bosnia to Chechnya, Kasmir to Thailand- everyone get along with everyone, EXCEPT the muslim fundies...the common denominator to these vastly different and far apart lands is the Islam problem. The proof, as i always say, is in the pudding! |
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Who said 10,000 years ago ? black conquerors didnt start their conquering march till 2000 years ago, when black people found steel. Black people (and your ancestors) are Bantu people. NOT all hafricans like you clueless, cultureless and heritage-less afro-americans/afro-caribbeans think. I am not disrespecting your heritage....why are you disrespecting mine. you see what I mean Sir K!!! where on earth does Wifan get this history, this chronology? who supports it? where is accepted as general? you see Wifan is a comedian and what he presents here and everywhere, all the time, is excellent stand-up routine! Last edited on Fri Jul 20th, 2007 02:50 pm by mapoui |
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enough!! enough!!! please! this is a turkey shoot! I dont want a century like this....against a minnow. just leave it in the mid-eighties. |
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Problem dumbass, is you also take the earth with you. If we do not stop, there wont be anything more than microbial life on the earth's surface for millions and millions of years and earth may never have another sentient species. And all for your materialistic greed. Funny! precisely! weapon of mass destruction in yuh rass. the fire next time...this is next time. GOD in yuh wiyah!!!!!!! |
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It is only the racist afro-americans/afro-caribbeans, influenced (unfortunately) by centuries of racist environment of the white-dominated americas that think Africa to be black. what is dat unfortunately? understandign supposedly rational admission and acceptance of fact? are we supposed to be grateful? keep it man! dat go gih we jaunders! |
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Too fugging bad. Bottomline is, choose between a few generations of material wealth and then annihilation or slower development for longer prosperity and even balance. The temperate lands of the whiteman has one critical advantage- it is NOT the engine of the planet in flora and fauna. The tropics are the engine of biodiversity and life on this planet's lands. Clearcutting tropical forests to mek way for more people is far far more damaging to nature (and thus, us, in the long run) than clearcutting forests in siberia or ireland. thats right we are absolutely greedy as we move we huge clear cutting combines that reap trees like corn...into place in our forests....combines we manufacture in our polluting factories...to reap trees we then pulp fuh paper and furniture, fuh factory skids and whatever else we waste wood on,.....using the most vile chemicals to tanalise and treat the wodden products so that when sawdust is used for mulch nothing grows for generations from the compost. that what we do we greedy inconsiderate developing worlders.....destroying the engine of the worlds fauna.... you see Andy Robberts, the sam Angie Robbers of Redbaron who runs a fishing business in Antigua...along with many other fisherman used to attest to the fack the the northern western reefs were dead and dying by 20 years ago. .you see what was happening is that we deloping worlders had dupmed toxic chemical wastes in our own waters and killed our own reefs and did not even know we dumpred it until our fishermen reported the dead and dying reefs. you see the prediction..or the report based on certain knowledge of what was to become of the caribbean...that our sea would become an open cesspit...was made by us as well as doing the work of cesspit creation ourselves. oh what a great routine. Richard Pryor must be edgy in his grave in envy. Last edited on Fri Jul 20th, 2007 02:44 pm by mapoui |
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you see we westindians and developing worlders are so wicked we developed something called NED, to finace internecine local political war, to ensure we put governments on ourselve who refuse to use our own money to provide jobs, education, healthcare etc for ourselves. and when some of us refuse to go along an elect a decent government, we use our own money and resources to overthrow that decent government, kill the leaders and put back in by force those who refuse to employ, educate, and make us healthy. thats how nasty and incorrigeable we are to our own selves. why do I bother...I can laugh just as heartily without saying a damm thing! Last edited on Fri Jul 20th, 2007 02:52 pm by mapoui |
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ketch_im wrote:
not true...maybe certain parts but as a whole, not true. |
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In GUYANA ......Hindus do NOT care about the well being of Muslims .... that is a serious charge! it seems thaty some people have a lot of work to do to clear that up! |
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Oh yes you are. By insisting that our culture is black, you are disrespecting our heritage and completely denying our heritage. Don't get me wrong- this is NOT to do with black being inferior or any such sentiment- your idea that indian culture is black is just as disrespectful to us as some racist whiteman talking about our culture being white people comming ovah from central asia. We are neither black, nor white and denial of that IS most definitely disrespectful and totally denigrating of our culture! |
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sharpening up you routine I see. yu should get even more yuks with your standards of disgrace. yu must get offended all the time EH!? |
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yu must get offended all the time EH!? Nope- i rarely run into the racist whites who think India is whitemen comming from central asia or racist blacks who think india was black before whiteman tek ovvah. most people i've met from all ovah the world dont consider us black or white. As i said, we ent white or black- and it is denigrating to us to consider our history as white history or black history. And ironically, almost all those who propose such nonsense are either white superiorists from America or culture-less and heritage-less slave descendants of the Bantu in north america. Last edited on Fri Jul 20th, 2007 08:38 pm by WIfan |
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....such nonsense are either white superiorists from America or culture-less and heritage-less slave descendants of the Bantu in north america. but isnt this disparagement and disrespect for the simply reason that it is quite inaccurate? and...unscientific! Last edited on Fri Jul 20th, 2007 09:10 pm by mapoui |
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No,not really. It is a fact that black people be bantu people according to how race is perceived by the world. And if science is the benchmark here, then blacks,whites,browns,asians etc. all on same playing field. And nothing inaccurate about you being a heritage-less afro-new world person- your people sold their own as slaves for some trinkets of gold, the slave masters got rid of most of yuh culture outta yuh in the caribbeans & USA...though i wouldnt say the same to the slave descendants of Brazil...they kept their culture mostly intact. yuh are hetirageless because yuh know nothing about yuh heritage beyond the last 300 yrs or so...give or tek another 100 yrs. What is nonsense though is the Aryan Invasion cr@p- first used by the racist whiteman to say indian culture is whiteman's culture who came ovah from central asia, then used by racist slave-descendants or conquered blackman to further whine about 'whiteman come ovah and whack our culture in India'. Nothing more than unadulterated drivel from the racist blackman and his racist whiteman counterpart. Last edited on Fri Jul 20th, 2007 09:20 pm by WIfan |
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but isnt being alive mean that yu posses some kind of culuture in kind and quantity sufficient to permit survival....? and isnt it scientific to know that one cannot exist in one is not cultured to an extent that permits survival...or earns in whatever niece.. and if one comes in slave and unfamiliar with the conditions of the nieche..that one survived at all... apart from superior physical durabiilty... the survivor came in with basis universal enough to permit the adjust that must have taken place to allow or earn the survival thats saw far more than survial achieved but a floushing of the indivual as a result of his expanding succeeding generations?...even that adjustment demanded an appropriation of the existing culture in the nieche..and an appropriation of the other invading and now dominant cultur..that of the master? well...??? |
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and of course whatever the formulation currently westindians/north americans given that it is passed along the generations, nig nog of the west are far from cultureless, heritagel-ess...that not for a minute during that whole procees were we without some sort of it..culture and heritage..like the whole of it as it mutated and expanded over the generations....somewhere in the unconscious procees for whatever, it, through us has has come to dominate culturally throughout the americas? are you sure you are supre in science...and high intellectual activity? where is Sir K....? Last edited on Fri Jul 20th, 2007 09:27 pm by mapoui |
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No. Culture is not something one is born with. Rest of your post didnt make sense to me- so can you rephrase it please ? And no, dont expand it into an essay, just please rephrase what you meant in other words. |
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nig nog of the west are far from cultureless, heritageless...that not for a minute during that whole procees were we without some sort of it..culture and heritage Everything is relative...to us, you are heritageless...us as in us old worlders.Nig nog in brazil are different however. through us has has come to dominate culturally throughout the americas? slave-descendants have merely had their presence felt in American culture..which is a pretty paper-thin culture anyways. A few hip-hop and few Denzels dont make you culturally dominant- the biggest part of culture is philosophy & artistic traditions. Of which you are barely to scratch the surface in America. Last edited on Fri Jul 20th, 2007 09:31 pm by WIfan |
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you will have to try harder..it will help expand your english skills. catergorical again eh!...culture is not something one is born with eh!!! Freud postulated long ago. humans are born with a philo-genetic inheritance. it would be of the very greatest value to you to see what he meant by that and the extent knowledge of has been developed to date. so you may be right that we are not born with culture.... but what you must do is to demonstrate at what point the philogentic content we are born with kicks in...for only then you can you be catergorical about what actually is the case with the culture question and birth as you have raised it. Last edited on Fri Jul 20th, 2007 09:34 pm by mapoui |
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Freud postulated long ago. Psychology has moved far far beyond since Freud's days, with Freud's works no longer considered the bible of psychologists...so don't quote Freud here. But i guess you will since you cant keep up with the times...Freud, Diop, Obenga..lawwd gaad man ! get outta the stone age and develop your perspective further nuh! but what you must do is to demonstrate at what point the philogentic content we are born with kicks in. I aint compelled to demonstrate any such thing. Philogenetic content,like Freud postulated is nothing more than an unproven, unsubstantiated hypothesis. So i am not gonna bother proving the presence or lack of something that isnt even proven to exist. |
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Everything is relative...to us, you are heritageless...us as in us old worlders.Nig nog in brazil are different however. Sweet!!! from categorical to conditioned, mitigated catergorical when challenged. from heritage-less, cultureless to "everything is relative..to us you are heritageless..." who are us...and why should we care what you opinion is inasmuch as we see it in the vacouous, changeling formit is as presented by you? |
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who are us. Old worlders and a few new worlders who didnt lose their heritage(like guyanese indians for eg). |
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I aint compelled to demonstrate any such thing. Philogenetic content,like Freud postulated is nothing more than an unproven, unsubstantiated hypothesis. So i am not gonna bother proving the presence or lack of something that isnt even proven to exist. back to a catergorical...on Freud no less...a human being who in his time was responsible for much scietific advance..production that you have not even begun to match...have you wriotten a book on any subject? lok at an eg b Freud. what is the case when young children consistently display behavior of a maturity they have not lived long enough to have learned? we have all noticed this fact! please demonstrate some reasonble explantion outside of freuds take? there is also the argument that as human conditions of existence becomes more and more secure, resulting in greater human confidence overall, in the sense of mastery of our environment that such confidence can be reflected by the young in the earlier ane earlier display of heightened consciousness. I used to watch white kids the most advance of the species and lo andbehold we find kids doing at 4 years old what teenagers did not do back in the day. when my daughter in particualry was born it this phenomena really came home to me for literally our of the womd she was upright, sruglling apparently to display behaviour in her mind that her bnody could yet facilitae her accoplishment. I saw it first with my son but she was exceptional. and subsequently i have seen it all over the place. if Freud and philogenitists are wrong please profer some decent alternatives as explanatory of such phenomena...phenomena I am confident you..and others who may be looking on are familiar with? |
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anyway Ta Ta labyrinthe..I gotta go! you may page me tomorrow..or monday when I return..for I wont bother with pcs on the weekend..this wekend in particular. party time! |
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I have no idea how to explain it. Freud noted a phenomena- whether that phenomena is/isnt watertight is for science to deciede. And then Freud put forth a theory- an untested and unsubstantiated theory. Which as far as i am concerned is NOT proven beyond resonable doubt or scientifically. So therefore, as i said, i aint bound to prove how something fits into this theory when the theory itself is not proven! |
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