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Posted: Tue Jun 15th, 2004 05:31 am |
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http://www.guardian.co.tt/sports2.html
BY NAZ YACOOB
T&T’s 20-year-old talented allrounder Dwayne Bravo is among 16 players picked by the West Indies selectors for the second leg of the tour to England.
The West Indies cricketers will play a four-Test series against England at the conclusion of a One-Day NatWest series, which also includes New Zealand and hosts England.
West Indies will play their opening match of the one-day series against New Zealand at Edgbaston on June 26.
According to an official of the West Indies Cricket Board, the selectors were mandated to pick the 16-man squad for the four-match Test series much earlier than usual, because of injury problems to a few players.
Four players have been named as reserves for the Test series, which gets going in the third week of July.
Bravo made his One-Day International debut against earlier this year against England at Georgetown in Guyana.
His latest one-dayer was against Bangladesh at St George’s in Grenada.
The right-arm Queen’s Park bowler and right-handed batsman has so far appeared in eight One-Day Internationals and has an aggregate of 72 runs from five innings. Bravo has also picked up seven wickets for 178 runs from 39 overs and has impressed all with his tremendous talents.
Also named in the squad, who will be captained by the world’s batting record holder in Tests and First Class cricket, Brian Lara, is Bravo’s compatriot Ravindranath Rampaul.
The former West Indies youth fast bowler has appeared in 14 One-Day Internationals but is yet to play in a Test. The right-arm fast bowler has picked up nine wickets for 462 runs from 86 overs in the shorter version of the game.
Twenty-two-year-old Barbadian fast bowler Fidel Edwards, who was withdrawn from the squad for the one-day tournament, has also been named in the 16-man touring party for the Test series. Edwards was replaced by Jermaine Lawson for the one-dayers against New Zealand and England. The 22-year-old Lawson is also in the squad for the Tests.
Left-arm unorthodox spinner Dave Mohammed, young St Lucian allrounder Darren Sammy and fast bowlers Corey Colleymore and Mervyn Dillon have been named as back-ups in the event of injuries.
Sammy was a surprise choice in the ODI squad.
Sylvester Joseph, the Leeward Islands batsman who ended a good regional season with a hundred against Bangladesh in Grenada, is also in the Test squad.
The team’s batting will be centred around Lara, openers Chris Gayle and Devon Smith, vice-captain Ramnaresh Sarwan and the experienced Shivnarine Chanderpaul, with support from Bravo, Joseph and the exciting Dwayne Smith.
Ridley Jacobs and Carlton Baugh will do duties behind the stumps. Anguilla’s Omari Banks is the only spinner selected, with Pedro Collins, Tino Best, Rampaul, Edwards and Lawson the speedsters.
Skipper Lara had expressed concern about the flurry of injuries which have hit the team ahead of the tour of England. The risk of overworking his fast bowlers was another concern for Lara.
However, he also cited positives which his team gained from the victory over Bangladesh, and there was also note about the scheduling of the one-dayers before the Tests on the England tour, which he felt would enable the players to get acclimatised to the conditions.
The West Indies team for the NatWest one-day series left the Caribbean for London on Sunday. Newcomer Sammy is already in England and will join the squad on arrival at Gatwick Airport. The entire party will then leave for Belfast, Northern Ireland, for two matches, scheduled for tomorrow and Thursday.
WI TEST SQUAD
Brian Lara (captain), Chris Gayle, Devon Smith, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Sylvester Joseph, Dwayne Smith, Dwayne Bravo, Ridley Jacobs, Carlton Baugh, Omari Banks, Pedro Collins, Tino Best, Ravi Rampaul, Fidel Edwards, Jermaine Lawson. Reserves — Dave Mohammed, Darren Sammy, Corey Collymore, Mervyn Dillon.
WI ONE-DAY SQUAD
Brian Lara (captain), Ramnaresh Sarwan, Chris Gayle, Devon Smith, Ricardo Powell, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Dwayne Smith, Dwayne Bravo, Darren Sammy, Ridley Jacobs, Carlton Baugh, Ian Bradshaw, Ravi Rampaul, Tino Best, Jermaine Lawson.
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Posted: Tue Jun 15th, 2004 07:22 am |
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Bad pick/Viv's pick - Sylvester Joseph
Undue pick - at best a stand-by Lawson
Not a bad pick but one I would not have made but lets see how it goes - Rampaul
Bad pick- Carlton Baugh. The man is Keith Hibbert. Baugh aint no Geraint Jones. Baugh is just warming a seat for Ramdin.
I agree with Sparky here- Mohammed was a must not to avoid. To accomadate leave Lawson to build his way back over the next year.
Where is Ryan Hinds after a good season and a decent effort in the tests?
Joseph before Ryan Hinds? - Thats Vivs Leward Islands due. Ryan pays for that little piece of favouritism. I wont call it insularity. Viv as the man from the area has to give them something.
I hope they understand when it is their time again to hold strain. If they dont who cares anyway. 'Do so never like so' If they dont like to dance when the music stops tell Viv to play it straight now.
I dont really like the side. Glaring weakness is Lawson and a not yet ready rampaul, along with Carlton Baugh and Joseph who has a whole lot of proving or improving to do. And he is not a kid anymore. Ther is in all likelihodd no upside to him.
That is 4 our of 16 players virtually useless- or 3 useless and maybe Rampaul. They are going to put an inordinate amount of pressure on the viable 12 players
For those 4 I would substitute
Hibbert the keeper
Nohammed the spinner
Ryan Hinds the batsman who can help with the bowling
Rampaul is the only one I would have difficulty with. maybe he is ready but his rop over England and Bang ODI's was not hot at all.
But that does not say much. If he is ready he could break out suddenly.
Risky for if he turns out a passenger again it would be costly, shedding pressure onto the other pacers. yet who to replace Ravi with with good experience or a beter upside?
Looking at the reserves only Sammy I would contemplate as Mohammed is already part of my selection Outside the test reserves, only Bradshaw of the ODI I would consider.
and outside of that Andrew Richardson. What has become of him pray tell?
NoI It looks like Ravi is in- definetely before Colleymore who is useless, and Dillon who has wound down after a very decent career.
The best 16 then would have been
DSmith
Gayle
Sarwan
Lara
Shiv
Dwayne Smith
Bravo
Ryan Hinds
Jakes
Hibbert
Banks
Best
Edwards
Rampaul
Collins
Mohammed
Now which is the better 16- mine or Viv's
Last edited on Tue Jun 15th, 2004 07:32 am by mapoui
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Posted: Tue Jun 15th, 2004 11:13 am |
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Good assessment mapoui... i agree with most of your comments.
I cannot agree with the Dillon selection, even as a reserve!
Much better imo would be to retain Bradshaw after the ODI series. Regarding the keeper, also agree Baugh is a joke, better options would have been Hibbert, Ramdin or even Patrick Browne (BIM).
Joseph is clearly an 'island' pick! Ryan Hinds is paying for his slackness of the last series. What about Powell? Dey drop him after 2 tests, have we not learned anything from our past choppin and changing. Give the man a run in de test squad, that is the only was he can learn to be more selective with his shots.
I have no problems with Ravi in the squad, i doubt he will play in all the matches, and the experience will do him good. Lawson should spend the rest of the year playing club cricket and gettin himself together, rushing him back is counterproductive, and will only destroy the young mans confidence.
Personally i would like to see Wavell Hinds in the test squad, and Samuels with his triple recently must be knocking hard on the door! That is provided they are both fully fit?!
Well, what is done is done! I support de fellas, and wish them best of luck.
RALLY ROUND THE WEST INDIES.
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Posted: Tue Jun 15th, 2004 12:26 pm |
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This is a stupid move to pick Lawson for both the ODIs and tests..
The guy is having a terrible time working up any pace and is not ready yet.
Why rush him and destroy him forever?
Ravi is a sentimental pick.. he's everybody's poster child.. he's still a year away.
We should have picked Dave...
I can't see that bowling attack taking 20 wickets a game..
the english will FEAST on this bowling.. they will score a mountain of runs on us..
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Posted: Tue Jun 15th, 2004 12:28 pm |
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the test squad is a very decent one ... except for S Joseph .... I cannot see him averaging 30's in test cricket. Good to see Ryan Hinds not in this squad .... Ryan Hinds is not test material .... sometime back I think on this board or the cc board .. I selected my squad to England and I had everyone else except Joseph.
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Posted: Tue Jun 15th, 2004 01:01 pm |
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Lawson/Rampaul? I guess Collymore is really in the doghouse. If so, Mohammed would have been a good option. Seems to me they keep Mohammed's name on the sheet (eg. reserves) to give the impression he is in the figuring. But I am of the belief Mohammed will get a game only if UFO abducts the team plane.
Looks like Ryan Hinds in the doghouse too. And the test experiment with Powell is over! Unless Powell cracks some 50's in the ODI's?
Anyway, none of these fringe players will really cause an impact in the tests. The main guys have to produce for us to present competition: Lara, Shiv, Sarwan, Collins, Best, Edwards.
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Posted: Tue Jun 15th, 2004 10:40 pm |
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| is wey Ryan do so nuh!!!?
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Posted: Thu Jun 17th, 2004 11:54 pm |
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| Picking Lawson and Edwards might backfire on the selectors. Edwards is struggling with his fitness and Lawson is too slow and ineffective. Both Lawson and Edwards need to play at least 1 full season of regional cricket. I have no problems with Rampaul being in the team. Even if he is not playing just being around the senior players will help him. He is not ready right now. Joseph is a surprise pick but I can live with him. Today's match clearly shows the need for an experienced bowler. Any one of King, Collymore, Drakes and Gibson should have been picked.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18th, 2004 12:25 am |
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| If there was anybody currently on the WI team that understood bowling and could provide useful advice as a guy is getting pasted, then there wouldn't be such a dire need for an experienced bowler. Hooper was able to do this. Lara? I bet all he would have to offer is a stew teeth. And everybody else on the team that may be able to offer advice seem to be on gag order.
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