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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 02:40 am |
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Captain Chanderpaul has inherited the absolute worst bowling attack the West Indies team has ever had. Not even God can lead this team against a higher ranked opponnent and win. What does cricket writer, commentator, and loud mouth Colin Croft mean when he said recently that Shiv is not dynamic enough and lacks the aggression and imagination to be a long term captain ?
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Could Frank Worrell with all his dynamism, aggression, and imagination have won with the current WI team ?
Could Clive Lloyd with all his dynamism, aggression, and imagination have won with the current WI team ?
Could Viv Richards with all his dynamism, aggression, and imagination have won with the current WI team ?
LETS TAKE A LOOK AT THE BOWLERS WHO PLAYED FOR WORRELL, LLOYD, AND RICHARDS WHEN THEY FIRST CAPTAINED THE WI TEAM:
CAPT....................BOWLERS
Worrell.................Hall, Sobers, Valentine, Ramadhin
Lloyd....................Roberts, Holder, Gibbs, Boyce, Barrett
Richards...............Marshall, Holding, Garner, Harper
Lara (1st stint).........Ambrose, Benjamin, Walsh, Mclean
Chanderpaul........Powell, Collins, King, Best, Edwards, Washington
Productivity 2.0+
I have highlighted the bowlers above who ended their careers with a Productivity of 2.0+----only great bowlers do so.
Worrell inherited a team with 3 great bowlers---or bowlers who bcame great; Lloyd inherited a team with 2 great bowlers; Richards inherited a team with 3 great bowlers. Lara in his first stint as captain inherited 2 great bowlers.
WHAT THE FCUK DID CHANDERPAUL INHERIT ?--A bunch if useless jackasses.
So what skunt is that duncified jackass Colin Croft talking about dynamism and aggression and imagination ?
And speaking of IMAGINATION ? What does 52 year old Croft know about imagination---other than it is a fancy word.
I am just amazed at the masses of men---like Colin Croft----who slave their lives away for money----and these fuktards have the gall to talk about IMAGINATION.
If Colin Croft had one ounce of IMAGINATION and one ounce of CREATIVITY----he wont at 52 years of age be hustling for a paycheck.
My point is---52 year old slave Colin Croft has no business making the statement that Chanderpaul lacks imagination----Crofy doesn't know what the fcuk IMAGINATION is.
Give Captain Chanderpaul caliber bowlers like Worrell, Lloyd, and Richards inherited when the became captain and you'll see dynamism and aggression.
Rev
PS. The Rev will criticize Chanderpaul when he screws up as captain---like not showing leadership with the bat when he made 35 in Trinidad and 53 in Barbados---but when skunts like Croft and Mike Haysman earlier in the week take cheap shots at Shiv---then they'll be dealt with.
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 02:52 am |
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We have skunts like Joey stuck in the past and the 4-prong..
then we have jackasses for curators who prepare the absolute deadest pitches in the world.. how will that help our bowlers and batsmen?
if you prepare a dead pitch and Lara scores 400 that's great... what happens when the opposition wins the toss and drop 700 on you and you have to chase leather in the field for 2.5 days?
what's the facting point of picking PACERS who can't bat, bowl or field and then prepare the DEADEST facting wickets for them to bowl on...
maaan, these selectors and admins need to be shot for sheer stupidity..
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 03:09 am |
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:Jack::colo::angy::Tant::Tant::Tant::Tant:
for Stevie and the Rev! all that for only now knowing all deh claim as excuse for chanderpaul not that he is cappo and gettimng his ass whipped just as Lara was...even worse than Lara.
when it was happening to Lara he was the worst cappo ever tuh rass! Now look at deh grabbing any rass excuse to take shame outa chanders face.
is only now deh know de bowling attack is de worse ever, dat not even gord could lead de team an win wit what we have
man what a waste all dis is. Man allyuh haul allyuh rass yuh hear Stevei an Rev.
is hypocrisy all de ras way.
all of this was long evident but allyuh wanted chanders to be cappo and all the shit allyuh do to get him there is clear as ever, archived right here.
Chanders cyant win with this side and he is surely doing the best he can. As did Lara.
the problem never was Lara or any captain but the state of westindies cricket at the moment.
and allyuh knew this long time but jettison it all just because allyuh wanted chanders cappo. allyuh changed around and sided with de devil wicb just so chander could be cappo.
leh mih tell the two ah youse dat it looks very good indeed on allyuh.
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 03:50 am |
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 04:25 am |
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it gets better than this
just watch and see
u aint hear cussing yet
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 06:53 am |
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I watched the Saffies first innings in Barbados. Fidel Edwards was bowling his first over, the first ball he bowled missed the stumps by an inch. In that first over there was a man at short leg. Smith pulled Edwards to the midwicket boundary at the 3rd or 4th ball, and shiv immediately removed the short leg and placed him on the midwicket boundary. HE HAS NO IMAGINATION!!!!!
Suddenly everyone realises that we have no bowlers, and that only God could lead this bunch, thats because Shiv is the cappo.
Lara had the same losers, but every loss was Lara's fault. I think this has been a real eye opener for the Shiv fans. He lacks imagination and he has a bunch of arses, you can't win with that combination
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 07:00 am |
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rev, you think every critic of chandrapaul is a duncified jackass?
may be it is you who in the duncified jackass for not seeing the obvious. chandrapaul is clueless at leading a test team. all he does is scratch his head like monkey 
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 10:15 am |
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Rev:
I LAUGHED when I saw this post  I wonder how many other 'duncified jackasses' will have emerged by the end of the Pak or SL series - that is...if Shiv lasts that long 
From what I saw of the 2nd test, some of the Croft/Haysman criticism seemed SPOT ON. Chanders doesn't seem to have grabbed the position as we hoped he would have. At stages he looked lost and listless on the field, and that to me was disappointing, regardless of how many tests he's captained. Does my opinion make me a hater or duncified jackass?
You say you're willing to criticise his leadership, and then criticise his batting with no mention of his on field prowess! Please!
If you are more aggrieved by this performance - then you DESERVE to be - because it implies you expected any better once Shiv took over. And that tyrannical satanist Lara was the root of all problems!
Look Rev, stop moaning and making excuses! THE BUCK STOPS WITH THE CAPTAIN -- that's just how it is, did you not realise this when you were bawling for him to be promoted?
It happened with Nasser Hussain, it happened with Graeme Smith, it happened with Lara - now why should Shiv be excluded from such criticism??
So much for the superior East Indian leadership eh??
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 10:30 am |
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And another thing -- stop holding onto the Bourda draw as proof of Shiv's captaincy skills.
The WI dont lose at Bourda - there is just no precedence for it. Since 92 the WI have played 7 tests at bourda and lost just one.
A few years back they even managed a draw against the likes of Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman, Ganguly and Kumble.
The bowling then; Sanford, Cuffy, Dillon.
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 11:45 am |
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In support of Shiv I must say that he has been a dealt a bad hand and setup to fail but his supporters must have realised that, unless they were also duped by their own ignorance to believe that Shiv could turn around a ship that has already sunk. At this point the WICB are only interested in scapegoats; does anyone actually think that we will win anything consistently in the next couple of years? Now when we fail the perfect scapegoats are at the helm, We have the GWH (Great White Hoax with supernatural powers and Shiv aka "Mr Will not Rock the Boat") the WICB can now continue raping, plundering and pillaging as they have the correct front-men who due to external & internal pressures will never implicate the WICB as culprits.
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 12:40 pm |
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 01:51 pm |
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Last edited on Sun May 1st, 2005 01:56 pm by mapoui
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 01:51 pm |
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 01:51 pm |
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Ash and Uton say what I was trying to say last night but much better. spot on guys!
I would add also that chanders must be scared tuh lose to rass given how he was built up with this east indian superiority thing and all.
Such fear must be hog-tieing him too, makig it difficult fuh him to free up and do his best as leader...whatever his level is.
It seems to me fear is what making shive rush to safety first field placing rather than beng as creative as he could be with all the risks that entails.
Is rev and dem fault for if chanders had come into the captaincy in a normal succession he woud not be so hogtied and limited in doing and failing if necessary before he settles in to a long run as skipper. By pounding pound lara so much Shives life has been impossible as cappo..even before he started.
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 01:51 pm |
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Posted: Sun May 1st, 2005 10:28 pm |
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ATTN: CLIFFORD & RAINMANJAH
Gentlemen:
It is a man's IMAGINATION that makes him remarkable.
No captain in West Indies history can be deemed a man of IMAGINATION.
You folks must not use words whose meaning you dont understand.
Now---the Rev insulted Croft---but because the 2 of you are members of the WCF family----I'll refrain from attacking you.
Go back and read the lead post----you'll add to your cricket education if you allow your self the luxury of thinking carefully about what the Rev was saying.
Rev
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