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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 01:56 pm |
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Don't know what the Gayle haters will do now since he has been made captain for the Australian tour.
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So long as they don't re-tread Ganga, is fine with me Last edited on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 04:49 pm by CT
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Lets throw our support behind Onry ....
Goooooooooo Wiiiiinnnnnddddiiiiieeeeeeeeesssssssss !!
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nabeeha wrote: Don't know what the Gayle haters will do now since he has been made captain for the Australian tour.
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wat yu mean yu doh know?
pied piper and lemmings is european literary crap. there have never been cliffs and hells westindians were dat interested in.
no hari kari fuh we fuh any reason. we goh do the sensible thing and watch as wicb waste another opportunity for a different direction dats all
I hope they asked Sarwan he said no and dats the reason they had to go to Gayle again!
gayle is ah six feet four inches child-man! he is of no value to westindies as leader at this time given our needs.
Gayle is an empty facting mental suite and I have everything against him now as I was fuh him at the start. I made a mistake and I correct it now!
allyuh cyar imagine how hard it was watching Dyson have his way with westindies against hingland this year!!!!!!!
the point is that Gayle did not have a clue! he had no idea what was going on....wat Dyson was up to! Gayle was no mental match at all for Dyson and Dyson had his asshole way with us.
as a man of mental capabilty Gayle would have seen Dysons sabotage and made representation about it to the wicb and the public if the dicb did not respond. 
and as captain he would have asserted his authority to forge a path alternative to the surrendering, defensive and negative, sabotaging bullshit policies of Dyson, if he did not agree with what was going on. 
Kevin Pietersen spoke up against the ridicuous imposition of a head coach on the english game. Warne and others have spoken upon theirs..on the idea of a head coach!
Gayle would have had much precedent and support had he chosen to do something about Dyson.
But did gayle even know something had to be done thats my question?
but Gayle was nowhere there, nutten, a non-existent profile in the presence of John Dyson.
and previously he had resigned and no one knows why!
then he and Hunte in quiet negotiation decicded whatever the hell they did in order to keep gayle as cappo.
whatever it was we saw an explosion of selection of Jamaican regionals on westindies side to the detriment of westindies development.
it seemed obvious that Gayle took a long-standing westindies favourtism allowed to the captain in selection, to a an extreme, making a caricature and total negative of a tradition that needs reform, not extention.
wat rass kind of person does all that reveal gayle to be...an idiot and an incompetent thats what...deficient in intellect and little sense of the westindian a captain must have in order to decent job as cricket captain of the westindies.
THAT IS WHY I LABELLED GAYLE THE UN-FACTING-WORRELL! GAYLE IS OPPOSITE TO ALL AND EVERY OTHER WESTINDIAN CAPTAIN THERE HAS EVEN BEEN.
GAYLE IS ABSOLUTELY NOT DISPOSED TO BE WESTINDIAN CAPTAIN AND HE SHOULD NOT BE CAPTAIN. THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN EXPOSED ABOUT AYLE AS FAR AS I CAN SEE SINCE HE HAS BEEN WESTINDIAN CAPTAIN.
HIS LEADESHIP HAS BEEN EMPTY, NUTTEN, NO PROGRESS...NO ADDITION TO WHAT LLOYD AND WORRELL GAVE US...A COHESIVENESS, A SENSE OF A COLLECTIVITY AND ULTIMATE SUCCESS.
ALL I GET FROM GAYLE IS A SENSE OF ANTI-WESTINDIANISM, LOW INTELLECTUAL AND BEHAVIOURAL LEVELS, SEPERATION AND BREAK-UP.... GLOOM SO TO SPEAK!
its ow I see dat Lara right! if Lara in his negative expectations for this tour, anticipated a gayle re-appointment and was doing his own undermining from early, his comments at least make sense now.
westindies wont win in Oz with gayle as cappo. Gayle does not know what to do pull-off such a victory.
Gayle is not smart enuff to organise any such success.... he is not capable of organising the comprehensive approach necessary to make a weaker side aware of itself as a team greater than the sum of its parts....of managing the great quantity of detail, understaing of the oppodition, being in attack mode all the time while betraying nary a twitch that he in fact is.
the only westindian player around at the moment with any pretension at all to to such capability is Darren Ganga.
but ganga has never enjoyed support at the westindian level and it may be too great a risk to appoint as a result.
Ganga is the only available player at the monent, with real leadershp ability, who can approach the job essential if the westindies are to win.
Sarwan is next but he is no Ganga though I I believe at this stage he is far better Gayle all things considered!
all we can hope for is that gayle maintains his average as leader. but as to advancing as a side, developing, progressing!
I doubt very much we will be any diferent or better leaving Oz, before we came!
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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 08:55 pm |
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mapoui wrote: Gayle is not smart enuff to organise any such success.... he is not capable of organising the comprehensive approach necessary to make a weaker side aware of itself as a team greater than the sum of its parts....of managing the great quantity of detail, understaing of the oppodition, being in attack mode all the time while betraying nary a twitch that he in fact is.
the only westindian player around at the moment with any pretension at all to to such capability is Darren Ganga.
but ganga has never enjoyed support at the westindian level and it may be too great a risk to appoint as a result.
Ganga is the only available player at the monent, with real leadershp ability, who can approach the job essential if the westindies are to win.
Sarwan is next but he is no Ganga though I I believe at this stage he is far better Gayle all things considered!
Wait how de hell you come to dat conclusion bout Ganga. Ah hope its not because of the recent 20/20.
Didn't Ganga captain de WI at some point or am I mistaken??
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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 10:09 pm |
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nabeeha wrote: mapoui wrote: Gayle is not smart enuff to organise any such success.... he is not capable of organising the comprehensive approach necessary to make a weaker side aware of itself as a team greater than the sum of its parts....of managing the great quantity of detail, understaing of the oppodition, being in attack mode all the time while betraying nary a twitch that he in fact is.
the only westindian player around at the moment with any pretension at all to to such capability is Darren Ganga.
but ganga has never enjoyed support at the westindian level and it may be too great a risk to appoint as a result.
Ganga is the only available player at the monent, with real leadershp ability, who can approach the job essential if the westindies are to win.
Sarwan is next but he is no Ganga though I I believe at this stage he is far better Gayle all things considered!
Wait how de hell you come to dat conclusion bout Ganga. Ah hope its not because of the recent 20/20.
Didn't Ganga captain de WI at some point or am I mistaken??
yes he did! and he got licks like sarwan the man he replaced!
but Gangas ability was an open secret fuh years.
by the time Ganga was 19 everybod knew he was going to be westindies captain as determined by the wicb....selected and encouraged with the captaincy as the eventual result.
did they do that for any other reason than the kid had ability they recognised, was of an acceptable class, had a secondary education etc.?
I doh care about the class bullshit only about the ability! I panned ganga over the years and at times unfairly too.
but is it true to say with the needs of westindies cricket at this stage....the need for a Worrell or Lloyd-like personality to again forge a new and winning approach... that Ganga is the only one with with anything near that kind of ability around at this time?
if he not name who is then...?
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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 11:23 pm |
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mapoui wrote: if he not name who is then...?
Gayle
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 01:31 am |
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nabeeha wrote: mapoui wrote: if he not name who is then...?
Gayle
funny! gayle is an arse!
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 12:52 pm |
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mapoui wrote: funny! gayle is an arse!
Right now for this tour Gayle is the right choice. The ONLY viable option was Sarwan but he probably would have declined.
If we do badly in Oz then I expect Hunte will relieve Gayle of the captaincy.
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 02:22 pm |
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nabeeha wrote: mapoui wrote:funny! gayle is an arse!
Right now for this tour Gayle is the right choice. The ONLY viable option was Sarwan but he probably would have declined.
If we do badly in Oz then I expect Hunte will relieve Gayle of the captaincy.
well not much has been set up to assist gayle. I will admit that.
westindies must now enagage in an intense pre tour camp to get anywhere near up to speed physically.
thinking of the posibility of decisive action if anyone fails in the mess the real failues at the wicb have created is beyond me....
Skunt relieving Gayle if he fails! incredible!
this setting up of werstindies as roadkill for the english, Oz and Safies is terrible.
it seems we either accept it as par for the course or give up on westindies cricket!
the wicb seems incapable of positive change!
and it seems out of the question that the westindian people will force change in westindies cricket administration, where our leadershp/elite classes will make none!
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 06:44 pm |
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mapoui wrote: westindies must now enagage in an intense pre tour camp to get anywhere near up to speed physically.
I notice you coming round
As far as I know there is no pre tour camp and there is one game before the first test.
Based on dem two facts alone I don't know how anyone expects us to get close to beating Oz.
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 06:57 pm |
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nabeeha wrote: mapoui wrote: westindies must now enagage in an intense pre tour camp to get anywhere near up to speed physically.
I notice you coming round
As far as I know there is no pre tour camp and there is one game before the first test.
Based on dem two facts alone I don't know how anyone expects us to get close to beating Oz.
well I was always there with you yuh know.....I knew wat was going orn. I was dealing with what is possible, stretching ot fuh it..and how, and who cud bring it about!
oh well!
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 07:05 pm |
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mapoui wrote: well I was always there with you yuh know.....I knew wat was going orn. I was dealing with what is possible, stretching ot fuh it..and how, and who cud bring it about!
oh well!
Thats where I blame the WICB. Instead of Hunte having this asinine "commitment" policy the team could have been selected weeks ago.
A week camp in the Caribbean could have followed. The WICB could also have negotiated with cricket Australia to get mebbe 3 two games before the first offical pre tour game. Those 3 games only needed to be 2 days duration each, with us batting one day and the opposition the next. Thay way all the bowlers would have got work outs prior to the test and all the batters at least 2 to 3 knocks.
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 07:13 pm |
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somthing like that can still be done. its not too late and it absolutely necesary!
watever Oz state deh land in to beign the tour there are all kinds of state teams that would be willing to play even a one day game with the westindies....
4-5 one day games would be as good as 3 by 2 day games!
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CT wrote: So long as they don't re-tread Ganga, is fine with me
LOL .....
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ketch_im wrote: Lets throw our support behind Onry ....
Goooooooooo Wiiiiinnnnnddddiiiiieeeeeeeeesssssssss !!
No other choice ......
I see another Aussie player returning home injured from India ......a fifth player, Moises Henriques follows Peter Siddle. Oz down to 13 players to choose from ...... Ponting says they're down to 'bare bones'
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Posted: Sun Nov 8th, 2009 01:26 pm |
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is wat people have against Ganga so!?
Ganga might have matured with age and is now ready to explode on the tes' scene with runs galore
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Posted: Sun Nov 8th, 2009 01:29 pm |
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I willin' tuh gih Ganaga another chance...why arent allyuh?
an he is ah far bettah cappo dan Gayle
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Posted: Sun Nov 8th, 2009 01:35 pm |
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anyway...all foolin aside it is prolly bettah dat deh din give ganga.
dem other fellas and dem wont respect him an' dat wud abort the mission from day one.
an deh batting question simply wont be overcome easily!
but doh Gayle is the most senior fella in deh and we cyar do otherwise at the moment, fuh once the wicb an' me come to agree!
we both come to dislike chris gayle in ah big big way..and fuh very good reason...at least on part
chris gayle...the UN-Worrell MC!
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Calypso wrote: Oz down to 13 players to choose from ...... Ponting says they're down to 'bare bones'
Exactly. They are vulnerable at least for the 1st Test ....we gats to play smart !!
I notice de chap name Bolinger tekk a 5_fer to seal the ODI series vs. India....
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ketch_im wrote: Exactly. They are vulnerable at least for the 1st Test ....we gats to play smart !!
Absolutely !!! ...... question is does Onry & co realize that we've got to get 'de edge'? Gats to hit de ground running ...... and hard ...
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the 11 thats stats that game needs to be able to take 20 wickets, none of this loading the team with batting shyte negativity deserves defeat.
my 11
- gayle
- borath
- sarwan
- Bravo
- shiv
- deonarine (they'll pick the ozzie)
- Ramdin
- benn
- rampaul
- Taylor
- roach
Don't be surprised if they pick 3 bowlers and play an extra batsman dem skunts are dumb
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sir bim wrote: the 11 thats stats that game needs to be able to take 20 wickets, none of this loading the team with batting shyte negativity deserves defeat.
my 11
- gayle
- borath
- sarwan
- Bravo
- shiv
- deonarine (they'll pick the ozzie)
- Ramdin
- benn
- rampaul
- Taylor
- roach
Don't be surprised if they pick 3 bowlers and play an extra batsman dem skunts are dumb
yes deh are capable of such a dum move..picking 3 bowlers. but skunt Dyson is gone so I believe the chances of such nonsense has receded somewhat.
and yes Deonarine before Sknash!
it wont be long doh! the Oz will make short work of Sknash.
unfortunatley deh will stick with him for 2 tests out of 3 so Deo go get one. he bette r use he pik this time!
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Nash is not getting dropped!
Deo fuh benn!
better spinnah ,better batsman!
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Googley wrote: Nash is not getting dropped!
Deo fuh benn!
better spinnah ,better batsman!
where is the evidence deo is a better spinner maaan peeps trying to be sensible for once and you come in here fuh chat shyte.
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sir bim wrote: Googley wrote: Nash is not getting dropped!
Deo fuh benn!
better spinnah ,better batsman!
where is the evidence deo is a better spinner maaan peeps trying to be sensible for once and you come in here fuh chat shyte.
give the man a chance and you will see the evidence! Benn is crap! and don't tell me he is the cream of the crap we got.
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sir bim wrote: the 11 thats stats that game needs to be able to take 20 wickets,
I agree....even the Punter is burnt out :
Capture the key wickets of Clark and Hussey early ( if we have the bowling to )
and we could have a 1 Game Lead ....
I recommend 4-prong for de 1st Test ONLY !!
Test player wid name like Voges , 20 yr.ole Phil Hughes et al
Then Onry, Sars and Shiv gats to face Hilfenhaus and Shane watson
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I see the "Calypso Kings" have landed in Oz .....
Joel 'Big Bird' Garner is the manager ...... Whatever happened to dat worm Tony Howard ? ......wormed his way into a higher position?
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ketch_im wrote: Capture the key wickets of Clark and Hussey early ( if we have the bowling to )
According to the press ........ Hussey fighting for a spot which would be good for Windies ............ but Punter says not so 
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Posted: Fri Nov 13th, 2009 11:56 am |
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ketch_im wrote: Then Onry, Sars and Shiv gats to face Hilfenhaus and Shane watson
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