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Wah wraang ??
Any comments that could highlight the Board's incompetence on the international stage
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If yuh think Brian ......watch wah Ganga seh 
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mapoui wrote: http://www.cricinfo.com/ausvwi09/content/current/story/430523.html
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ketch_im wrote: Wah wraang ??
Any comments that could highlight the Board's incompetence on the international stage
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If yuh think Brian ......watch wah Ganga seh
all dat does is sound defeatist to me. it doh lash the board nor is it reverse psych. it simply breaks the spirit.
anyway the Oz are just as likelyto fall apart as to be tuff against the westindies. deh are fragile at this time, the weakest deh have been against the westindies over the last 4 or 5 meetinngs.
if we are going to do well against them over the last while it is now.
Lara is working against opportunity with his negative nonsense, blind to the true situation...the Oz are weaker and rebuildng and a properly organised westindian effort cud scatter them.
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dats why Brian wasnt such a great skipper...because he does not see things properly!
Lara starts 'bass akwards' and must work against defeatist emotional obstackles he himself has put in his own way.
his job is not to analyse and accept defeat before the games begin..but to look to see how yu cyan defeat the opportion and try to do it.
if yuh fail yuh fail! but yu job is not to say long before the games begin u go lose..but how to beat deh skunt despite their obvious strenght relevant to yours!
dats why Brian shud shut his damm mouth.
if yu go talk talk positive! say how you believe the Oz can be beaten, analyse fuh we how dat cyan be done...not establish dem as unbeatable bogey men in we minds!
shut up Brian. talk positive ...or doh talk at all!
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fuh example can we defeat the Oz with Gayle as cappo!?
we cannot! Gayle is an arse and a very poor leader! at least we do not have Dyson or an Ozzie coach sabotaging we effort from inside anymore.
Stupid, subservient gayle and saboteur Dyson were a deadly mix
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Sarwan is the man for the job of westindies cappo at this time.
I dont think he is a brilliant skippe like Worrell and LLoyd. but he is not gayle! he is likely to be steady and competent enuff.
along with David Willimams we will at last, have a leadership that at the very least has the best interest of westindies cricket foremost.
that is a very positive development in the lght of Bennett Sking and Skunt John Dyson
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to accept Laras nonsense here is to go to Oz preared to get we arse cut.
the Oz now free from any expectation of westindian resistance, build confidence and can go play in the full knowldge that no westindian attack is coming....dat deh the Oz are feel like a doctor to experiment on a comatose patient, who doh see wat he up to, an not trying till deh kerry him out, every trick in de book, to reverse the situation!
it is the same dangerous fuckery we got from Dyson against the Hinglish this year!
we won a game, the first test.... and immediately Dyson disarmed westindies, sat us in the trenches to take english attack!
westindies did not try anything at all, did not attack the english, did not exploit their problems as a team, use their weaknesses against them...
westindies abandoned evrything and allowed the english every opportunity to get back at us, even the score and probably defeat the westindies.
this was so obvious it was maddening! I complained about it all the way through!
and here we get the same disarming shit from our prince!
LISTEN BRIAN!!!!! DAT IS NOT HOW WE SURVIVED IN THE WESTINDIES...SLAVERY, INDENTURE, COLONIALISM AND ALL THEY HAVE THROWN AT US OVER THE YEARS ...AND STILL CONTUINUE TO THROW AT US now!
dat is not how we survived to defeat them at cricket!
all the odds were and are against us and we fought anyway! and won! and we shud go to australia as usual to fight and beat the odds again! to deliver wood and come back with the trophy
we got here fighting, are still alive and in with a chance
where did yu get dat defeatist, tommist kinda ting from Brian?
I cyan never understand ah man like Gayle fuh dat...he and his un- Worrell anti- westindian, insularity.
Gayle take normal, traditional westindian favouritism and turn it into an extreme thing, hitting westindian cicket fuh ah loop with his 9 Yardies on the side...
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its all well and good fuh the wicb to try smash westindies cricket. deh are the elite, deh are parasites who live off the blood, sweat and labour of the people.
thses have a vested interest in keeping the people dong. deh will have nothing to eat if deh dont!
but we the people produce we one defeatist thinking dat is jess as dangerous as dat from our enemies...the elites who run our sociel reality.
Gayle is a supreme example of this people produced defeatism. Now Brian has joined him!
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Interesting that Brian now says he wants to work with the boys to help them prepare for Australia.
The Great Saviour, or one who knows that he said stupid things and now wants to get some credit when the team performs well?
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Marvinmart wrote: Interesting that Brian now says he wants to work with the boys to help them prepare for Australia.
The Great Saviour, or one who knows that he said stupid things and now wants to get some credit when the team performs well?
in 1960-61 I was ah lil bwoy in Titty. no one of importance expected westindies to beat Oz den... but no one said we wud lose!
if deh did I wud know because lil bwoy or not I read everything, all the newspapers , magazines and radio news was mine.
but all the forrin press said it openly! deh all expected a sound cutarse fuh the westindies.
James said afterward that all he hoped for was that the side would give a good account of itself.
only Worrell knew better! he knew he wasnt going to Oz to lose dats fuh sure. and if the Oz won deh wud know dat fact
dats the difference I mean! the Oz are not god! deh cyan be beaten...by this westindies team we have here, properly led in confidence of itself.
we defeated the english team dat just beat the 'in and out' rebuilidng Oz.
we wud have given dat h'inglish team a sound cutarse by at least 2 to 0, if not a 'blacwash,' had we a coach actually working in westindies interest.... and not against us...and a cappo who had half ah brains, with some idea of what being westindian means...some idea of our history and achievements
if I say westindies go lose in my crowd dats fine!
but when Lara says it, on cricinfo to boot, its worldwide! 
it is bound to have a very negative impact on the players. it is unstrategic, tactically unsound, self-defeating chatter, by a national figure, central to cricket
were I running things I would not involve Lara in preparations for Australia now, after his silly chatter.
the least he can do is to find some way around it, to neutraise what he has said and to find ways to instill fighting spirit in the team...but from a distance!
if we need to instill some fortitude we should go look for Kanhai, Butcher, Lloyd etc...someone like those who know how to beat odds stacked high against westindies
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I am really pissed! Brian have to learn these things quickly.
its way past time and he still must learn this basic lesson about the world, about living!
I am aghast he cud be this silly, openly displaying such foolishness.
he may think he is saying and doing something good but he jus' the typical blac idiot to the world, the world that knows much better than he clearly!
weak or stong yu on yuh ownm...mus' represent yuh own side. and yu mus' say and do nutten at all to help de enemy and weaken yur own side!
it wud instead have been real sweet had Brian started a war with the Oz in the media, or otherwise sweetly undermine dem, weakening their constitution not ours
I mean deh wud be hardly be looking fuh Brian deh...all the more to his and our advantage. he cud do some real damage to them before de wised up!
.Lara cud subtly point out 'Lee' aging and growing ineffectiveness as a bowler' or 'consistent' Johnsons waywardness..dat nathan hauritz is hardly as good as tittys Mohammed...or Swann the new englishman
I mean he cud let dem know the dat Siddle ain all of dat, pointing some non-existent but seemingly plausible flaw in his make-up and encourage him to go look fuh it
and in dat vein there wud be many other things 'wrong' with the Oz making them vulnerable to a westindiian sooprise!
I means the young ones cud not be all of dat given dat the h'inglish without Pietersen and and harmy beat them? deh cud not come up when the pressure dropped
there are any number of ways to sidle-up to the Oz, play their friend while yu attack dem on their 'weak' points...
Lara doh realise that that is his job too!
wat... he thinks living life out here is like walking when you believe you are out at the crease!?
I doh see nutten so simple out here in life! he better wake tuh rass up!
this is not childs play! cricket is war and for that reason this attitude of Lara is most unwelcome.
I wish to see the end of bullshit like dat in westindies cricket...in westindian life period!
let Lara continue with his investments while westindies get someone else with a far more subjective westindianess to work with the team. dat go be better fuh all concerned...especially lara. give him chance to correct his nonsense.
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allyuh doh worry! I not suddenly vex all to hell with Brian! far from it!
allyuh know wats wrong..wat I am going orn about! anyway it is the lack of assertive, confident, totally self and group centred talk, concerned with and expressing our self interest publicly when they speak, by blac people anywhere at all in the world.
especially by someone such as lara who has scaled the pinnalce, is totally secure materially, and full of support the world over. and if Brian speaks the way he should when consdering westindian issues, he may lose some jefe' support, but he is bound to increase support among the masses of blac people everywhere!
wat puzzles me is Brains meekness! it is no disimilar to the meekness noted by all tjhose blac people who have scaled material success. the more successful they get the meeker they become, the less useful they are to blac people generally.
having scaled the heights of material success they appear to become absorbed into the existing domination over blac people generally, their money and power rendered useless in the general blac fight for liberation.
Brians comments in that interview linked above, seems bent on reassuring the Oz in fact, that they have nothing to fear from these coming westindians, rather than builidng up the westindies for a push towards an upset victory!
I dont know but this is total tears! I am stunned by Brians nonsese. I do not expect that he is racidical but I did not expect this level of subservience and surrender from him.
I noted how he liked to walk when he thought he was out regardless of the state of games. that there was a major sign of Laras capture by western bullshit values, embedded in their religion and general philisophical construct.
People like Lara never noticw that western society built up all that bullshit but never adhere to it. western society never turns the other cheek, blows off yours if you offfer it, and the other one too if you turn it!
western society is master of double standard, do as I say but not as id, preaching one thing while doing the other. to take literallly what western society has packed into the educational content for us is suicidal.
and as expressed by Brian here if we go to Oz in a posture consistent with his implied message of surrender, we will indeed be crucified.
we will surrender, not even putting up great numbers for individual players. we will lay down and le the Oz walk all ove us for we wuld know we could not win long before the games begin!
with that attitude I dont want Brian Lara anywhere near the westindies team...anywhere near the Trinidad team...anywhere near to young blac people in the westindies who need a proper, totally subjective orientation, in order to make of life for them and for blac people a positive experience on the way through.
it is time for this shit to be over and done with. Lara's shoud be the last generation of blac people to suffer from this suffocating bullshit called blac subservience. it is not wront to love yourself and your people Brian, and to talk openly, stroungly and self intereretedly about what we do in the world and our chance at it.
"that is the normal way Brian, the way of the world save we lost our own way which is why you speak as you do."
wellit is time to take it back! no one can harm you for so speaking, they cannot coe directly and harm you. they would have to do it clandestinely.
well there sre 2 responses to that. on the way up to safety and security there are risks to take. and no mater what you will always be secure in Titty, if blac people do not lose out there too, because of the same nonsene you represent, the bad self-defeating attitude that you kerry around with you.
and then there is the fact that if the safety is not built we will not have it, we will not be liberetaed and safe in the world. we have to do it Brian, you and me and all of us Black people.
if we do not do it, beat the odds, fight until we are kerried out, still trembling from the batlle we are toast anyway. so none of your obsequiousness will work, will save even your life ultimately. for your life to be safe all blac people must be safe and that is what you must be working towards in ways consitent with your station in life.
and no social position requires you to be so damm demonstrably dotish that you destroy and destabilise westindies in the Oz interest even before we hop on the plane en route.
you need to re-educate yourself Brian. you have the time and the money so get to it. re-educate and re-orient yourself properly before you open up yuh mout' again, so dat you are guranteed of saying soemthing for your people and your nation and not something against it!
that to my mind is the meaning is Laras comments! I like Lara but I like survival even better!
I will point out if I can, the nonses of anyone at all where such nonsense impinges on and attacks the general well-being of the westindies and the westindian people....as well the interest of blac and ordinary people everywhere!
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mapoui wrote: anyway the Oz are just as likelyto fall apart as to be tuff against the westindies. deh are fragile at this time, the weakest deh have been against the westindies over the last 4 or 5 meetinngs.
There is not a damn thing wrong with what Lara said.
The plain fact is that SA recently beat Oz in Oz but prior to that I cannot remember the last time Oz lost a series at home.
This thing about Oz being weak now is meaningless.
Have you looked at the averages of the players we will be sending? Who is going to make runs? Almost all our bowlers are averaging over 30+.
I fully expect us to lose. I just hope that we make it competitive.
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nabeeha wrote: mapoui wrote: anyway the Oz are just as likelyto fall apart as to be tuff against the westindies. deh are fragile at this time, the weakest deh have been against the westindies over the last 4 or 5 meetinngs.
There is not a damn thing wrong with what Lara said.
The plain fact is that SA recently beat Oz in Oz but prior to that I cannot remember the last time Oz lost a series at home.
This thing about Oz being weak now is meaningless.
Have you looked at the averages of the players we will be sending? Who is going to make runs? Almost all our bowlers are averaging over 30+.
I fully expect us to lose. I just hope that we make it competitive.
are'nt yu the man who jess said this below here:
No point second guessing what happened.
Who on the 1983 WI world cup team should be called idiots for losing to India??
dat was a most improbable victory and it is the same with just about any game dat is played.
H'ingland just cut the Oz arse. dat series exposed the most inconsitent oz performance in years. at times they were tremendous and at others so bad deh got beat in the series.
and Kevin Pietersen did not play...it was not a full strenght H'inglish side. dat new saffie/english fella Lott is it. socred a ton and the Oz.
this is a fragile Oz side I maintain based on what I have seen of it. Pontins captaincy is not assured and westindies is totally underated by everyone.
Good!
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and I am right also dat dis is the weakest Oz side westindies will meet in the last 10 years.
depending on the side westindies pik and who deh make cappo we can shock dem like Titty raised some eyebrowsm in India.
on no account must gayle be made cappo! his batting is important to the side but he has proven a most awful leader and they must not continue with him.
hopefully he stays if he is not captain but his captain is not worth his place in the side
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First TT did well in a 20/20 competition. The fact is we have been pretty decent in 50 over and 20/20 over the years while at the same time playing badly in test series.
I have heard this all before about the so called weakness of the Oz side. Remember they are playing at home. After winning the ashes Eng went to Oz and got whupped and I would put money down that if Eng went to Oz they would get whupped again.
My point is that if we surprise them several players will have to play well above what is suggested by their averages.
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playing as a team usually results in a total greater than the sum of parts involved.
in 1960-60 westindies played according to james: "well above what it knew of itself"
I honestly do not see that great a difference between Oz and the westindies man for man at this time.
Oz has always had a big rep and we all have been blinded by it all these years.
I remember that rep and the invincibility I beliveed was natural to the Oz until I actually got into the history of things, and found out about propaganda and the true nature of things.
from the history I know, the Oz have only beaten the westindies honestly since our decline began by 1995, and has continued to now!
do the history up to then and you will see what actually happened especially in Oz with the umpiring...and in the westindies too where or own empires were as hard on westindian players as any Oz or english ump.
the Oz are strong, generally are strong but they can be beaten...and by the players we have now.
if Ganga was cappo and had the batting to keep his place I would put my money out on a bet that westindies would beath this Oz team.
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mapoui wrote: playing as a team usually results in a total greater than the sum of parts involved.
I honestly do not see that great a difference between Oz and the westindies man for man at this time.
Oz has always had a big rep and we all have been blinded by it all these years.
if Ganga was cappo and had the batting to keep his place I would put my money out on a bet that westindies would beath this Oz team.
All I am saying is that in the last 10 - 15 years the only team to beat Oz in Oz in tests has been SA. It seems to me that Oz had a plan for getting on top and staying there.
On the other hand we had no plan other than the continual mystical search for the next 4 prong. There was and still is no plan in place for producing test quality players. There is also no doubt that we have performed poorly at times because of politics and infighting.
You mention that you do not see a big difference man for man. Well take the fast bowling - Edwards, Taylor, Roach, Tonge, Bravo, Rampaul - them fellas should be up to the task but check their performances so far. Some are unproven while others need to step up their performances.
Same with the batting, how many average above 40 in tests? I believe only Shiv does so and his performances in Oz are below his average.
Then take the WICB, I hope you realize that we have only ONE game before the tests start. How the heck 15 or 16 players can get some decent practice in just one game???
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yu make it sound a theoretical battle on my part...and it seems so in truth and in fact!
that one game business is par for the course from the wicb.
deh always agree to intineraries that limit westindian preparation on tours to Oz and England in particular.
deh cyar say no to the white man in which case my criticism of Lara applies to them even more.
I have been beating up on this issue for a long time now...the inability of blac westindians to deal with white people based on our self interest.
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All I am saying is that in the last 10 - 15 years the only team to beat Oz in Oz in tests has been SA. It seems to me that Oz had a plan for getting on top and staying there.
the Oz have problems at the moment...demonstrable ones!
the pace..apart from Lee...is not great, very inexperienced. but Lee is 31-32?
Mitchell Johnson is fast and can be devastating.
but it does not look like he can keep it up for any lenght of time.
he was terrific in RSA but since them he has not met those same standards.
Siddle and Hilfenaus are both still unknown quantities.
and if Hauritz is the best Oz spin de still in need of a spinnah!
England beat the Oz last Ashes test minus Pietersen, a hobbled Flintoff, a suspect Bell at #3, and a rookie in the Lott fella!
the Oz do have good players! Katich Pontin and Clarke are probably better than Gayle, Sars and Shive...but by how much.
and remember Pontins captaincy is under much scrutiny at the moment...but Clarke does not inspire much confidence, despite a sort of coming of age for him in this past Ashes here!
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On the other hand we had no plan other than the continual mystical search for the next 4 prong. There was and still is no plan in place for producing test quality players. There is also no doubt that we have performed poorly at times because of politics and infighting.
dat is not mysticism...any search for a devastating 4-prong! in westindian circumstances that is the right thing to do...search, as well as put in place the resources to train and develop...
but that is no what deh were doing. deh werent searching and developing anything.
ignoring the possibilites our spin offered, deh were picking the fast men who came out and were available, with the intent or idea that deh would somehow magically morph into Holding, Roberts and company
dats the mysticism right there...in the minds of the selectors who were stuck in a time frame betweem 1976 and the retirements of Walsh/Ambrose
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You mention that you do not see a big difference man for man. Well take the fast bowling - Edwards, Taylor, Roach, Tonge, Bravo, Rampaul - them fellas should be up to the task but check their performances so far. Some are unproven while others need to step up their performances.
the answer to the quality of performance of all the players has to do with the quality of administration we have been getting.
the way to get the best out of the players is to administer the game as good as possible on the day.
Titty proves that dont they?
Allan Rae, Stollmeyer and Comacho did too!
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every batsman has an Archilles.....
Sobers had a blind spot for left arm leggies. he also struggled to score at the QPO...the only ground in the world on which he never ran amock.
Greenidge had all he could to score runs in Oz.
at first the pace was too great fuh him. and when he learned to cope wih extreme pace he still could not score there. Greenidge had one ton in Oz..dats it!
well Shive have a hurdle to get over...scoring runs n Oz as he has scored elsewhere. he should be really motivated this time...probably his last in Oz as player!
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Full name Brett Lee
Born November 8, 1976, Wollongong, New South Wales
Current age 32 years 352 days
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Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 10:15 pm |
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mapoui wrote: England beat the Oz last Ashes test minus Pietersen, a hobbled Flintoff, a suspect Bell at #3, and a rookie in the Lott fella!
and remember Pontins captaincy is under much scrutiny at the moment...
But you are forgetting one important point and that is that the series was played in England. If this same English team went to Oz I would put some money down on Oz beating them.
There is nothing wrong with Ponting's captaincy. People seem to think that a captain can work miracles. A cappo has to work with the players he has.
While you do not like Gayle as captain it is a fact that apart from the English tour he has been doing reasonably well, a point which his detractors seem to conveniently forget.
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Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 11:20 pm |
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well there may be nothing wrong with Pontins captaincy but thats the point.
it was not good enuff to prevent a second loss...under him...in england!
nothing wrong as I see it means that Pontins captaincy is what it has always been, hasnt changed, still the same thing, not bad but maybe the game has skidded past him a bit
Pontins precedessors did not lose in england for a long time. he has done so twice now... hence the questions!
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Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 11:54 pm |
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I will give you and Gayle the resonable results part. we havent been losing as previously although that last england tour must be taken into considersation.
that loss was bad, things fell apart and Gayle was at the centre of the problem as a causitive factor!
in addition to those results, gayle has done some very ignorant and childish things that do not augur well for the future.
Gayle therefore may have shot his positive bolt and it is time to remove him, to avoid the negative future potential his behavior has revealed.
it began with his resignation in childish pique about selection. getting his way he rescinded his resignation and proceeded to fill up the side with yardies.
that was the greatest most in your face, doh care dam bullshit I have ever seen in westindies cricket!
you dont take traditional westindian favorutism and make a carricature of it, to the detriment of the game in the region and regionalism itself.
what kind of insanity is tha... the man was joking or wat?
and then again if the players were as good as the Bajan 7 in and around the westindies side in the 1960's well then ok!
but not Baugh, Marshall, Findla, Parchment and bozos of the sort!
then his almost invisable profile while John Dyson fucked around all through the England tour I found unconscionable.
then came his rediculous pronouncements before westindies mini-tour of england in the spring.
Phew! what... the man is stupid?
was he indulging in his famous freely-speaking-of-his-mind thing?
freely speaking is one thing! what a man has to say is another!
Gayle clearly meant what he said! and if we know the man and his cricket, his appreciation of the money to be made/maks in T20, we know what he said fits his personaltiy to a T
Gayle is no Worrell!
I call Gayle the Un-Worrell for the specific purpose of highlighting that he is the very anthesis of the great man, our regional standard...a lighweight where Worrell was strong...where Lloyd was and is strong...Westindianism, smarts and diplomacy, that earned then both great respect,...which respect Worrell in particular was using to advance important issues in the region.
Worrell nor Lloyd would have been childish enuff to resign for jackass purpose!
neither would have burdened westindies with unworthy players.
Gayle did not even care if westindies won with the Yardies he forced on the side.
we all knew westindies had in fact been been weakened by Gayles selection...and gayle could not help but know that too.
yet he persisted and westindies duly lost in the emirates with Baugh and Findlay in particular looking asses...Xman not to far behind them!
useless players like Parchment cluttering up the damm side.
so despite the half decent results Gayles captaincy is now a very sour note indeed, due to what he himself has done to himself.
he also no longer has the SKUNT in his cornah.
Skunt feels betrayed badly by Gayle.
Skunt and Gayle made a deal! Skunt gave Gayle the shop and the keys to it, to keep him as westindian cappo....thinking I believe that Gayles was indispensible.
then Gayle turned on him and struck with the team.
that appareantly made Skunt livid with rage! I wud bet my own money therefore, that for this alone gayle as captain of the westindies is toast!
but there is of course much more reason to can him!
Gayle is a lightweight with in fact, a less than ordinary mind, as all he has done and said reveals. we would be losing the negative Gayle represents and nothing else by replacing him as captain
replacing him is a good forward step that can be made easily in the circumstances!
Foolishenes like Gayles' pisses me off no end! I cannot forgive wat is really ignorance on Gayles part. shit man!
the more he has earned the more stupd he behaves. as a mans security grows he suppose' to relax and consider things more evenely...take the time to speak more careful...to see and understand the world more, deal with others and things better.
I doh see none of that with Gayle...only an expansion of the ordianry, shitty. insular behaviour he always tended to!
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Posted: Tue Oct 27th, 2009 12:16 am |
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as an ordinary blac westindian C H Gayle as westindian captain does not advance my interests.
it is not in my interest therfore to support him as leader but to expose my case against his leadership, so that it helps clarify the issue for the next man to do better!
I am not advocating dropping Gayle and I am very happy he has been making, and continues to make a fabulous living for himself.
as an ordinary blac westindian I am hapy for him and wish he continues to expand his success in his career.
but he is not a good westindian captain, does not advance the cause of the region and as such he shud be replaced.
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Posted: Tue Oct 27th, 2009 01:18 pm |
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mapoui wrote: nothing wrong as I see it means that Pontins captaincy is what it has always been, hasnt changed, still the same thing, not bad but maybe the game has skidded past him a bit
I don't think the game has skidded past him. I don't care how good a captain you are you will lose if you are up against a better side.
Many talk of Brearley as being this great captain able to work miracles. Brearley was very lucky that he did not captain in any series against the WI, and he was totally outplayed in the '79 world cup final.
All I ask of a captain is that he get the best out of the players under him.
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