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ketch_im wrote: Mapster ,
You know WIfan is a Homosexual ???? 
so I have been noting reading all the negative comments he incites. soopris! sooprise! well what can I say..not that there is anything wrong with it! he should find a lover anyway and get himself busy making family. all this puppeting wont do him any good. one can easily see his masters laughing behind him as they spounce up the idiot mf to attack such as we... on an msb no less. one would think that as a high graduate in engineering he simply would not have an entire day to spend/spare, fucking around on CC.com/446. he would be better use theanyway, time looking for a good man!
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Mapster ,
You know WIfan is a Homosexual ????
funny thing dat a follower of the religion of CSBs is calling me a homosexual...LOL...homosexuality is a problem in your sex-deprived religion...not with me.
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one would think that as a high graduate in engineering he simply would not have an entire day to spend/spare, fucking around on CC.com/446.
Inferior one, read up about multi-tasking. Posting for 5 min 20 times a day hardly requires me to deviate from my work, which all has advanced deadlines posted.
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that the earth at times in its unimaginably long history has been warmer that it is now, warmer that it is projeted to get but without the consequences Gore trumpets.
That is the problem with you- your half-intelligent brain cannot make sense of global warming and you fall prey to the propaganda of the oil-funded 'scientists'.
Yes, its true that the earth does heat up and cool down on its own- but what WE have done, by clear-cutting millions of sq. km. of forests in the last 200 yrs and producing billions of tons of excess CO2 from industrial process, is give the warming trend a big big boost...what would've happened in 100,000 yrs from now is now gonna happen 100 yrs from now.
I posted what I believe..
You are niether an expert, nor privvy to facts. Therefore, leave some room for doubt in your belief or else you are nothing but a dogmatic skunt.
global warming as led by Al Gor, a notoriously nasty politician with record to match
Dont confuse YOUR perspective with the truth. YOU might not have heard of Global warming before Al-Gore jumped on the bandwagon- i've followed this debate in scientific circles for the last 15 years, back when Gore was Veep and pooh-poohing global warming. To you, Al Gore is the champion of global warming because you are the ignoramus who needed Gore's politics to get your attention.
To me, Al Gore is nuttin but a bandwagonist, jumping on the GW bandwagon for his own political gain.
Doesnt mean he is wrong about GW though.
then when one considers the projected solutions to global warming, one can easily dislimm the theat to the developing world for it will have to bear a truly disproportionate quantiof pain in the proposed corrections..which would just about abort any chance there is of ever getting out of poverty into a material development that can take care of the people there.
Too fugging bad. Bottomline is, choose between a few generations of material wealth and then annihilation or slower development for longer prosperity and even balance.
The temperate lands of the whiteman has one critical advantage- it is NOT the engine of the planet in flora and fauna. The tropics are the engine of biodiversity and life on this planet's lands. Clearcutting tropical forests to mek way for more people is far far more damaging to nature (and thus, us, in the long run) than clearcutting forests in siberia or ireland.
what do I need science to tell me when what i am dealing with and the answers I have given are eqauliy scientifice.
No, your answers are not scientific- they are meaningless propaganda.
are the scientists credible when they claim that even with the highest projected warming, there will be no flooding and all the scares Gore mongers?
No credible scientist denies impending flooding of lowlands due to melting icecaps.
the imperical evidence is conclusive, obvious, damming!
Indeed. the world scientific body accepts global warming as human caused to be conclusive, obvious and damning.
there is no way I can take Global warming seriously!
Thats because you are a skunt.
its pedigree and provenance exceedingly poor, rooted in a century of western bullshit and economic exploitation of the rest of the planet.
Nothing but propaganda from the ultimate materialists willing to fcuk over the planet for material gain of mankind. And as i said, you are not qualified to judge the provenance and pedigree of global warming.
I will put my head on a block here...
Chosen like a retarded and doomed man.
Good job.
so I do not have to do any research to prove anything...to profer up any scientific justification for my position.
Bull-facking-shyte. The world scientific council and UN science body accepts global warming as manmade. Now that the scientific community has spoken as a whole, the onus is indeed on you and a few crack-pot agenda-driven fanatics to prove their case (that GW is bullshit).
the onus is on Gore..and you... to prove beyond a doubt that your prognoistications are true, correct, precise.
And it has been- the world science council accepts global warming as largely a manmade phenomena.
we trying to do so in the way we see as right. we have one choice: develop or die.
You should pick the latter option and stop wasting precious oxygen- you are too closeminded and boulder-pon-shoulder to develop.
so there is ABSOLUTELY NO KISS MY ASS ALTERNATIVE TO OUR DEVELOPMENT ANYWAY.
Only difference is, if you develop slower, the REST OF THE WORLD doesnt die with you. But ofcourse, a marxist has very little clue about ecology and human developmental impact on nature and its impact on us.
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Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2007 01:40 pm |
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WIfan wrote: that the earth at times in its unimaginably long history has been warmer that it is now, warmer that it is projeted to get but without the consequences Gore trumpets.
That is the problem with you- your half-intelligent brain cannot make sense of global warming and you fall prey to the propaganda of the oil-funded 'scientists'.
Yes, its true that the earth does heat up and cool down on its own- but what WE have done, by clear-cutting millions of sq. km. of forests in the last 200 yrs and producing billions of tons of excess CO2 from industrial process, is give the warming trend a big big boost...what would've happened in 100,000 yrs from now is now gonna happen 100 yrs from now.
I posted what I believe..
You are niether an expert, nor privvy to facts. Therefore, leave some room for doubt in your belief or else you are nothing but a dogmatic skunt.
global warming as led by Al Gor, a notoriously nasty politician with record to match
Dont confuse YOUR perspective with the truth. YOU might not have heard of Global warming before Al-Gore jumped on the bandwagon- i've followed this debate in scientific circles for the last 15 years, back when Gore was Veep and pooh-poohing global warming. To you, Al Gore is the champion of global warming because you are the ignoramus who needed Gore's politics to get your attention.
To me, Al Gore is nuttin but a bandwagonist, jumping on the GW bandwagon for his own political gain.
Doesnt mean he is wrong about GW though.
then when one considers the projected solutions to global warming, one can easily dislimm the theat to the developing world for it will have to bear a truly disproportionate quantiof pain in the proposed corrections..which would just about abort any chance there is of ever getting out of poverty into a material development that can take care of the people there.
Too fugging bad. Bottomline is, choose between a few generations of material wealth and then annihilation or slower development for longer prosperity and even balance.
The temperate lands of the whiteman has one critical advantage- it is NOT the engine of the planet in flora and fauna. The tropics are the engine of biodiversity and life on this planet's lands. Clearcutting tropical forests to mek way for more people is far far more damaging to nature (and thus, us, in the long run) than clearcutting forests in siberia or ireland.
what do I need science to tell me when what i am dealing with and the answers I have given are eqauliy scientifice.
No, your answers are not scientific- they are meaningless propaganda.
are the scientists credible when they claim that even with the highest projected warming, there will be no flooding and all the scares Gore mongers?
No credible scientist denies impending flooding of lowlands due to melting icecaps.
the imperical evidence is conclusive, obvious, damming!
Indeed. the world scientific body accepts global warming as human caused to be conclusive, obvious and damning.
there is no way I can take Global warming seriously!
Thats because you are a skunt.
its pedigree and provenance exceedingly poor, rooted in a century of western bullshit and economic exploitation of the rest of the planet.
Nothing but propaganda from the ultimate materialists willing to fcuk over the planet for material gain of mankind. And as i said, you are not qualified to judge the provenance and pedigree of global warming.
I will put my head on a block here...
Chosen like a retarded and doomed man.
Good job.
so I do not have to do any research to prove anything...to profer up any scientific justification for my position.
Bull-facking-shyte. The world scientific council and UN science body accepts global warming as manmade. Now that the scientific community has spoken as a whole, the onus is indeed on you and a few crack-pot agenda-driven fanatics to prove their case (that GW is bullshit).
the onus is on Gore..and you... to prove beyond a doubt that your prognoistications are true, correct, precise.
And it has been- the world science council accepts global warming as largely a manmade phenomena.
we trying to do so in the way we see as right. we have one choice: develop or die.
You should pick the latter option and stop wasting precious oxygen- you are too closeminded and boulder-pon-shoulder to develop.
so there is ABSOLUTELY NO KISS MY ASS ALTERNATIVE TO OUR DEVELOPMENT ANYWAY.
Only difference is, if you develop slower, the REST OF THE WORLD doesnt die with you. But ofcourse, a marxist has very little clue about ecology and human developmental impact on nature and its impact on us.
this is what you do with this whole and fully inteligent presentation of yours in which you make complete sense of Global Warming!
Take it and shove it up your smart ass.... and await Al Gore to help take some of it up his too...while seeing if both of you can hold strain with it until you resolve it scientifically with you great brains. in the meantime Chavez and Iran are building cars, and Latin America are setting-up Bank Del Sur, while sending the western finacial strangulation institutions straight fucking home. and I hope your science is absolutely right and third world developmentr fries the fucking planet. GW seems like a weapon of mass destruction.... so then by all means use it while trying to survive...and if we cant...we take all allyuh sick and dumb mother-uckers with us...especially you the most complete jackass of all. I will make sure to look fuh yuh skunt to ensure that you enjoy the hottest place of all when the planet fries tuh fuck up. yuh dry, ignorant wooden self should immensely to the fire. prophesy in yuh skunt: God gave Noah the rainbow sign, no more water the fire next time. what you want to avoid the Guy Fawkes party? the dumbest skunt I have ever met. the most stupid and insensitive to his own disparagement and disrespect, the most relentless fool there is, placing himself among not his own kind, inducing the most intense dislike, claim he is playing mind games with us....FOR ABSOLUTLEY NO PROFIT THAT ANYONE CAN DISCERN. talk about a human been with absoluitely no self-respect, seeking abuse to justify his existence. stevie shud ban skuntfan to save him from himself......and to preserve some dignity for Indains.... for the skunt has wrapped himself in Indian racial clothing, seeking to respresent in himself all indians. I know that skuntfan is not representative of India, in no way represent thatanythig of the good qualities of that vast and growingly powerful nation..that he is just lunatic Janatta Dal fringe isnt there supposed to be some valuable reason for the utilisation of anyones time? isnt there supposed to be something like if there it isnt worth it why spend the time? why does this fellow then spend so much time here when he is supposed to be such a graduate that employers in the field should be panting to hire his services...which employment should place such demands on his time at all, to be here at all posting away his bullshit? look here man...your science is a skunt! and if the world had to depened on your scientific analysis then it might as we went and fucked itself. and in the case of global warming it matters not whether you are right or wrong. if your are right then we are all toast for I dont see anydevelping copuntry prepared to use solar energy so that when they cooking they have to turn off the fridge, and when they read they can cook etc. yu tale all those alternaive and go live with by yourself in asmuch as you are a believer and commited to your ideology. in the meantime fuck off willya. now that I havew set up my nicely, energetically..I am off to get some repairs on my car, then to Fort Erie race track for a little betting, relaxation and later on a nicle long drive along the magnificent Niagara Parkwa, along the water of the Niagara river, to the Niagara Falls then turn around and b back hom. Yuh know Indian people love water, flocking to the Ganges yearly. well there are always a lot Indian people along the Parkway enjoying the river water, the park and the scenery, proving the lone, insane, manipulated skunt you are. at least they can come out and enjoy the world while it lasts and they are alive
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Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2007 02:05 pm |
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to 446! the fool Wifan does not realise that this Global Warming issue may not be a scientific issue at all.
yet the fool has turned our involvement here in this issue into a contest between his own scientific prowess and everybody elses' including mine in particular, which is not on display here.
it is my o[inion as I have described that there is no serious existential problem with the wraming of the planet...unless of ocouse the Van Allen belks catchcs afire and we all cook.
it is also my opinion that the developing world is not responsibe alone, to keep the planet alive by the sacrifice of the lives and chances and future of its populations.
IT MOST DEFINETLY IS NOT! AND THAT IS THE CENTRAL AND BASDIC ISSUE TO GLOBAL WARMING, THE ISSUE THIS POST WAS SET UP TO EXAMINE.
THE SCIENC OF GLOBAL WARMING BEDCOMES IMPORTANT ONLY IF THERE IS GENERAL AND CERTAIN AGREEMENT THAT IF THERE ARE DEVELOPMENT SCARIFICES TO BE MADE THAT IT IS DISPORPORTIONATELY SHARED BY THE WEST, WHO HAVE CAUSED THE PROBLEM AND NOT BY THE DEVELOPING WORLD THAT HAS NOT!
we did not cause the problem if there is one. and not for a minute must we listen to the west and stop our development, not by a jot, tittle, or fraction of meaasuement. we must in fact seek to increase the pace to bring us to par, involve our citizens to as great an extent as possible preparing as many scientissts and professions of all sorts as we can for it is they who may be able to help us fi there is in fact a probem and a way out can be found.
historical lesson has proven to us wer can depend on the west for nothing but more exploitation and rape, war and genocide.
NO MATTER WHAT WE MUST RELAY ON OURSELVES NOT ON THE INSANE MURDEROUS GREEDY, LYING AND DUPLICITOUS WEST .
LET SKUNTFAN DO THAT!
we have adifferent more enlightened, path to follow based on centuries of empirical evidence of the west and the relationship of social and material forces in the world.
this planet will not be here forver anyway...one day it too will die at a time when humans are likely to have been long extinc, or gone somewhere else in the universe or evolved into some other form
so let it die now then for there is no way by any stretch of reasoning that the develiping world can forgo its development to save the planet from problems caused not by its people but by those the jackass western societies.
thats the issue at hand not the science and scare-mongering of a skunt like Al Gore, a very rich man looking out for his own clas.
from my pov fuck Al Gore and the global warmers all the way to hell and perdition and let him take his mental sidekick skuntfan with him
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" I am an electrical engineer. Yes, i am VERY solid in science. "
" I am more qualified than you .........."
Mapster ,
I checked .....Simon Fraser is a likkel dinky university in Ottawa....
Even the other likkle dinky Brock Uni ....in St. Catherines is RANKED
above it !!
Ranked # 21....yes , facting 21st position......
Like one above grade 13 .....lets call WIfain a Grade 14 graduate !!
Now it all makes sense ......I tort i was dealing with a Uni qualified
individual ALL this time 
http://www.univforum.com/canadian-university-ranking.html
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historical lesson has proven to us wer can depend on the west for nothing but more exploitation and rape, war and genocide.
History has also shown that blackman no different. When the blackman started his expansion ( blackmen= bantu people), they killed & genocided the not-so-black people of Africa ( the Khoisan, nilo-saharans, etc all have stories about the blackman with steel killing them off and tekking their lands).
Whether you like it or not, bottomline is, Global warming by human causation is a scientifically established FACT that the world council of science and the UN accepts.
Therefore, the onus is on YOU and a few other hacks like yourself, bankrolled by the oil magnates, to keep chatting nonsense and prove GW wrong.
from my pov
Your pov is propaganda-driven and not based on science. Dat is the problem, skunt!
we must in fact seek to increase the pace to bring us to par, involve our citizens to as great an extent as possible preparing as many scientissts and professions of all sorts as we can for it is they who may be able to help us fi there is in fact a probem and a way out can be found.
Nobody saying dont do that- all we are saying is, do it without fossil fuel & clear-cutting forests to mek way for feeding more mouths, since you folks breed like rabbits.
its a good thing Africa and India has AIDS problem...if humanity is too arrogant and ignorant to put population control on it, its a good thing that nature tek care of it.
we did not cause the problem if there is one.
False. You are equally at fault for the problem, since the problem started with every-facting-retard on the planet clear-cutting away forests to mek way for more agricultural lands.
look here man...your science is a skunt! and if the world had to depened on your scientific analysis then it might as we went and fucked itself
Chump, get this straight- YOU have no authority to pronounce verdict on my science- you is NOT qualified enough to do that. Get that through your fugging brain- when i talking about science, the unscientific ones like you should STFU and listen.
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I checked .....Simon Fraser is a likkel dinky university in Ottawa....
You checked only your a$$. Simon Fraser is in vancouver and consistently ranked as the top technical insitution in Canada along with UWaterloo.
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Ranked 21st in Sikh town B.C.... !!
Even worse ....doan compare yuh self wid Waterloo !! 
YOU wear a Turban ????
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ketch_im wrote:
Ranked 21st in Sikh town B.C.... !!
Even worse ....doan compare yuh self wid Waterloo !!
YOU wear a Turban ????
1. No i dont wear a turban
2. Vancouver is far more of a china-town than sikh town
3. It is ranked 21st overall- and that is because we don't have a fine-arts program and our arts program is limited & sucks. SFU doesnt even offer music in its curriculum.
We are a technical institution and in the ranking of technology schools (ie, ranked on Compsci, Engineering & sciences), SFU is consistently #1 and/or #2 in Canada, exchanging places with Uwaterloo every other year.
4. You know squat about SFU to claim it is in Ottawa.
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Why would I wanna know where a 21st place University is located ??
My side is loaded with Engineering graduates from Queens ....
the rest of us are liberal arts grads from U of T and York....
my nephews are from Uni of Calgary and now Uni of Western Ontario
The other is a PhD grad in internet security from Penn State !!
Check the chart and see what positions those occupy :
From 1st position to 6 th 
then Calgay at 10th .........
21 st ........???...........Nah mekk joke 
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This is IGNORANCE of the highest order.
First yu call the guy homosexual and now you attacking his school and picking on people with turban. And DONT tell me you only asked if he wears a turban!
We see the evil in people when they are pushed to their limits. WiFan is well read, and an intellectual match beyond your reach.
You choose to get under his skin by these silly and purely ignorant comments.
ketch_im wrote:
Ranked 21st in Sikh town B.C.... !!
Even worse ....doan compare yuh self wid Waterloo !!
YOU wear a Turban ????
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Yes but you are behaving like a 5 year ole Ketch, really.
By the way, SFU is a damn good university. Just look at the product - WiFan is an Engineering grad and Ketch is NO match for him
ketch_im wrote:
Why would I wanna know where a 21st place University is located ??
My side is loaded with Engineering graduates from Queens ....
the rest of us are liberal arts grads from U of T and York....
my nephews are from Uni of Calgary and now Uni of Western Ontario
The other is a PhD grad in internet security from Penn State !!
Check the chart and see what positions those occupy :
From 1st position to 6 th
then Calgay at 10th .........
21 st ........???...........Nah mekk joke
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K.k. Esq. :
"WiFan is an Engineering grad and Ketch is NO match for him..."
"hahahaahaha...........
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the world council of churches is a vested interest whose path in the world is as documented and exposed as legitimae part of the western the status quo..... from the inception of christianity through its evolution into the christian family of churches.
the UN and all agencies is the same in the world..a western dominated most undemocratic organisation within which 5 members with vetos hold all the power.
the UN is purely poitrical and in total western thrall...quite unrepresentative of overall wrold perspective and interest.
when the UN and any relevant agency of it accepts any such program as Gore's Global Warming, scare mongering, it means little more that an expression of western interest..a partisan interest, quite in keeping entirely with western intent and plan for the world...as entirely without or outside the overall interest of the majority on planet Earth.
as I keep pointing oput ...you keep basing your arguments entirely on status qup positions, science...as well as fringe Coonian intellectualism..plus you own takes which places Indian at the centre of everything ancient when it comes to the story of humanity.
Sir K bigs you up as intellectually grand. part of that is ethnocentric response as Ketchy seems to be attacking Indians and Indian cultural/religious wear...but only seems to be so attacking.
you do have ability as all here and next door would be willing to admit. that is not a problem.
but intellectual and scholar holds an academic responsibility that is properly expressed by Sigmund Freud: No consideration, however, will move me to set aside truth in favour of supposed national interests. Moreover, the elucidation of the mere facts of the problem may be expected to deepen our insight into the situation with which they are concerned*
Freud had been arguing that Moses was an Egyption...and no representative in any way or consistentr with the phenotype of the then or now current Jewish population of the world.
ass such Freud, a Jew himself in his time, was brought under great pressure for he was taking the greatst Jewisn Icon away from the Jewish people, while seeking to place him, Moses acurately, historically.
Freud said: To deny a people the man whom it praises as the greatest of its sons is not a deed to be undertalen lightly - especially by one belonging to that people.
but truth was/is all im[plying that the responsibility of the intellectual/scholar is to truth and humanity and nothing but that truth.
that quality that Freud declares as basic can be foundfd in all the great scholars in their work, the product they leave for us to detemine the quality of. often one digging into the work of a schjolar can detect mighty struggles to deal effectively with the truth by them, fighting contrarty tendencies in ther souls to represent the truth and not sectarian principles.
that is the corruption in Wifan...what I have been trying to point out to him, pareticualry in my response to Global Warming. GW as all issues is the pproduct of centuries of modern histo, a continuing and most recent erruption of the war between the classes.
Wifan is thoug full of ability is narrow, infantile and egocentric to such a dfegree as to render him the foll all recognise and try to warn him off. but he is so ridiculously, unrelentingly focused it seems impossible for him to see hear, and learn. the content in his head, however it got there is all he is concerned about. no other opinion o\is of any concern to him.
what Wifan engages in is not intellectualism which must to contain a basic democratic element to attain its best expression. I beg Sir k to dislimm this element in Wifans productions here and expose it for all to see.
when Wifan goes back and compares for eg the his take on the behaviour of Blac conquerors of ancient times to current western behavior he hardly sees the narowness of such intellectualism. he eschews all the development of the past 10 thousand years, and in th face of the positves of that development excusess the atricties of thre dinopsausr who still in 2007 perpetrate behaviour we knwo to be thousands of years old.
it is as if Francis Bacon, Hegel, Rosseau, Dante, Marx, Engels, Dickens, Melville, Twain, DuBois, Padmore and Nkrumah, HG Wells and Conan Doyle, Darwin, the revolution of 1648 - Cromwell and the levellers, the gloriois revolution of '89. Wilberforce and the abolitionists, the Repeal of the corn Laws, the French revolutions of 1789,1848 and 1871...the Haitian revolution of 1791-1804 and the Russian of 1917...and all those mean in the evolution of the human species, to our understandg of our origins and conditions of existence, the stage of our material amd social development and what we face as biological beings and how we now know we must organise life to meet the challeges of going on indefinetly our current level has helped reveal to us.
n!!! blac conquerors used to behave that way 10 thousand years ago.... so it is right and justifiable for white conquerors to do the same currently...no intervening human growth need mitigate the savagery
there is no progress with Wifans intellectualism Sir K. his productions on this and the sister msb are nortoriously backward and childish,hubristic, exceedingly narrow of perspective....which establishes that ability is one thing...wisdom, intelligence, common sense are others all entirely.
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the world council of churches is a vested interest whose path in the world is as documented and exposed as legitimae part of the western the status quo..... from the inception of christianity through its evolution into the christian family of churches.
the UN and all agencies is the same in the world..a western dominated most undemocratic organisation within which 5 members with vetos hold all the power.
the UN is purely poitrical and in total western thrall...quite unrepresentative of overall wrold perspective and interest.
when the UN and any relevant agency of it accepts any such program as Gore's Global Warming, scare mongering, it means little more that an expression of western interest..a partisan interest, quite in keeping entirely with western intent and plan for the world...as entirely without or outside the overall interest of the majority on planet Earth.
as I keep pointing oput ...you keep basing your arguments entirely on status qup positions, science...as well as fringe Coonian intellectualism..plus you own takes which places Indian at the centre of everything ancient when it comes to the story of humanity.
Sir K bigs up Wifan as intellectually grand. part of that surely is ethnocentric response as Ketchy seems to be attacking Indians and Indian cultural/religious wear...but only seems to be so attacking as far as I know.
Wifan does have ability as all here and next door would be willing to admit. that is not a problem.
but intellectual and scholar hold an academic responsibility that is properly expressed by Sigmund Freud: "No consideration, however, will move me to set aside truth in favour of supposed national interests. Moreover, the elucidation of the mere facts of the problem may be expected to deepen our insight into the situation with which they are concerned*"
Freud had been arguing that Moses was an Egyption...and no representative in any way or consistentr with the phenotype of the then or now current Jewish population of the world.
such as Freud, a Jew himself in his time, was brought under great pressure for he was taking the greatset Jewisn Icon away from the Jewish people, while seeking to place him, Moses, acurately, historically.
Freud said: " To deny a people the man whom it praises as the greatest of its sons is not a deed to be undertaken lightly - especially by one belonging to that people."
but truth was/is all implying that the responsibility of the intellectual/scholar is to truth and humanity and nothing but that truth.
that quality that Freud declares as basic can be found in all the great scholars in their work, the product they leave for us to detemine the quality of.
often digging into the work of a scholar one can detect mighty struggles to deal effectively with the truth by them, fighting contrary tendencies in their souls to represent the truth and not sectarian principles.
that is the corruption in Wifan...what I have been trying to point out to him, particularly in my response to Global Warming.
GW as all such current issues is the product of centuries of modern history, the continuing and most recent erruption of the war between the classes.
Wifan though full of ability is narrow, infantile and egocentric to such a degree as to render him the fool all recognise and try to warn him off.
but he is so ridiculously, unrelentingly focused on the content in his head, it seems impossible for him to see, hear, and learn. the content in his head, however it got there is all he is concerned about. no other opinion or fact, or body of fact, is of any concern to him.
what Wifan engages in is not intellectualism which must contain a basic democratic element to attain its best expression. I beg Sir k to dislimm this element in Wifans productions here and expose it for all to see.
when Wifan goes back and exposes his take on the behaviour of Blac conquerors of ancient times, comparibng this to current western behavior, he hardly sees the narowness of such intellectualism..when he justifies curent western behaviour on this past example.
Wifan eschews all the development of the past 10 thousand years, and in th face of the positves of that development, excusess the current atrocities of the dinosaurs, who st, in 200, perpetrate behaviour we know to be thousands of years old.
which is one basis reason for my previous discripition of George Bush for eg as having walked straight out of the pages of european history of at least 1200 years ago.
I mean to look at the modern configuration of the world politically and economically, socially as well, one would think that this what Arthur Koestler had in mind...at least what he described as the history of eastern europe in the 7 and 8 centuries....the then struggle BETWEEN ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY WITH kAZARIA IN THE MIDDLE..THE SAME kAZARIA WHCIH HAD CONVERTED TO jUDAISM.... THEN USED BETRAYED AND DEFEATED BY THE OLD EAST ROMAN EMPIRE IN COLLUSION WITH THE RUS.... AND THE CONVERTED ASHKANAZE JEWS DISPERSED INTO THE RUS ENTITY - THEN BECOMING RUSSIA, WHAT IS NOW POLAND, GERMANY, AUSTRIA ETC.
it is as if we are still in the midst of that strruggle 1200 years later
for Wifan, it is as if Francis Bacon, Hegel, Rosseau, Dante, Marx, Engels, Dickens, Melville, Twain, DuBois, Padmore and Nkrumah, HG Wells and Conan Doyle, Darwin, the revolution of 1648 - Cromwell and the levellers, the gloriois revolution of '89. Wilberforce and the abolitionists, the Repeal of the corn Laws, the French revolutions of 1789,1848 and 1871...the Haitian revolution of 1791-1804 and the Russian of 1917...and all those mean in the evolution of the human species, to our understandg of our origins and conditions of existence, the stage of our material amd social development and what we face as biological beings and how we now know we must organise life to meet the challeges of going on indefinetly our current level has helped reveal to us.
no!!! blac conquerors used to behave that way 10 thousand years ago.... so it is right and justifiable for white conquerors to do the same currently...no intervening human growth need mitigate the savagery
there is no progress with Wifans intellectualism Sir K. his productions on this and the sister msb are nortoriously backward and childish,hubristic, exceedingly narrow of perspective....which establishes that ability is one thing...wisdom, intelligence, common sense are others all entirely.
*Sigmund Freud: Moses and Monotheism
Vintage Books ( Random House) 1967
Pa 1..page 3 Moses an Egyptian!
Arthur Koestler: The 13th Tribe - The Khazar Empire And Its Heritage
Omni Publications 1976
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J.J Kakabelly wrote : " WiFan is an Engineering grad and Ketch is NO match for him "
Bannah ....you too funny !!!
A grade 14 grad wanting to match WITS with me and you appoint
yuhself Coach : What's with you ???
Check with your sources at York U ( you know who )
you' ll get a better understanding .......
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" Yes but you are behaving like a 5 year ole Ketch, really."
Yeah right , Kaka .........
YOU are exposing yuhself as a WIfan ......SUPPORTER !!
BUT that's arrrite .....sometimes Sir b mek perfect sense :
" support yuh own "
there is no progress with Wifans intellectualism Sir K. his productions on this and the sister msb are nortoriously backward and childish,hubristic, exceedingly narrow of perspective....which establishes that ability is one thing...wisdom, intelligence, common sense are others all entirely."
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Mapoui seh:
" Sir K bigs you up as intellectually grand. part of that is ethnocentric response as
Ketchy seems to be attacking Indians and Indian cultural/religious wear...
but only seems to be so attacking."
Mapster ,
Lemme make myself perfectly CLEAR ........
In GUYANA ......Hindus do NOT care about the well being of Muslims ....
IN any part of the world ....
WIFan ...........brings out the best of Sir K .........
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My side is loaded with Engineering graduates from Queens ....
Queen's university, Sci-03 Alumnus here, buddy.
SFU 06 MASc alumnus too.
TYVM- come again!
21 st ........???...........Nah mekk joke
Since i am not an artsi, my only relevance is SFU is the #1/#2 university for sciences and engineering in Canada.
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Take it and shove it up your smart ass.... and await Al Gore to help take some of it up his too...while seeing if both of you can hold strain with it until you resolve it scientifically with you great brains.
Err look chump- do not link me with Gore here. Gore's stuff is not all accurate but the gist of his picture is pretty accurate- we are bolloxed unless we stop very soon.
And as i said to you before, Global warming as a science existed before Gore came long. Maybe your ignorant, out of touch and unscientific sh!t for brains didnt know of it before but i happen to be very much IN THE LOOP as far as science goes.
So stfu and defer to my judgement here- unless you wanna keep proving yourself to be an arrogant skunt without knowledge or qualification, yet going up against someone infinitely more qualified in this field than you are.
and I hope your science is absolutely right and third world developmentr fries the fucking planet.
True marxist nature comes out afterall- nothing more than a materialistic and selfish whore you are, maphead. A narrowminded skunt who's viewpoint is restricted only to the betterment (and that too, a misconcieved notion of betterment) of his species alone.
we take all allyuh sick and dumb mother-uckers with us...especially you the most complete jackass of all.
Problem dumbass, is you also take the earth with you. If we do not stop, there wont be anything more than microbial life on the earth's surface for millions and millions of years and earth may never have another sentient species.
And all for your materialistic greed. Funny!
prophesy in yuh skunt: God gave Noah the rainbow sign, no more water the fire next time.
Keep your God bull$hite outta this.
FOR ABSOLUTLEY NO PROFIT THAT ANYONE CAN DISCERN.
Key words: that *YOU* can't discern.
yuh dry, ignorant wooden self should immensely to the fire.
I can garantee you- if you keep up your global warming denial, it wont even boil down to our qualifications on who is and who isnt more ignorant on this.
As it stands today, chump, my paper has FAR more validity than your's- hell, your paper wont even be PUBLISHED by any science magazine or circular. So know who the ignorant one here is- YOU and only YOU!.
the UN and all agencies is the same in the world..a western dominated most undemocratic organisation within which 5 members with vetos hold all the power.
You forgot to mention that not all veto members are western.
And this is NOT a subject open to UN vote- you bely your ignorance on this issue- nobody said that UN wasn't western dominated or that it is shambolic- but the ONLY field in the UN that has credibility is its monitoring of world sciences- which is decieded by concensus of world science body presenting its arguments to the UN.
Sorry but i expected this common line from you and it ent flying.
when the UN and any relevant agency of it accepts any such program as Gore's Global Warming
Get one thing straight- global warming isnt Gore's. He jumped on the bandwagon a few years ago- global warming as a science has been researched into since the mid 1990s- when Gore himself was pooh-poohing it.
Just because your out of touch, out of loop, skuntface didnt hear about global warming until Gore's movie came out, doesnt mean it is Gore's global warming.
as I keep pointing oput ...you keep basing your arguments entirely on status qup positions, science...as well as fringe Coonian intellectualism.
Hey dumb-fcuk, i've already countered your baseless Coonian accusations- something i dont see you addressing. Instead like a mindless fanatic, you keep repeating Coonian in the most dishonest attempt of argumentativeness.
And as i said- you are NOT qualified to point anything out to me scientifically. Is that, in any way, not clear ?
If you had an iota of common sense and humility, you'd defer to someone your super in knowledge in this field- far far knowledgable, infact.
part of that surely is ethnocentric response as
Look, black-superiorist racist, not everyone here thinks along ethnocentric lines kike your chip-pon-shoulda self does.
what I have been trying to point out to him, pareticualry in my response to Global Warming. GW as all issues is the pproduct of centuries of modern histo, a continuing and most recent erruption of the war between the classes.
Again i say- you are nowhere qualified enough to point ANYTHING about global warming and the sciene behind it to me.
I am far more qualified than you are in sciences, far more trained, far more aware.
You are just a brainless propaganda-ist, who pounces on any propaganda that is anti-west and this is one of the prime such propagandas, since the ignorance of people on global warming is astonishing.
If you had an IOTA of humility and self resepect in your body, you'd come to me as a STUDENT, asking me to TEACH you the science behind global warming. For it is a fact that i know far far more about sciences than you ever will-given you little you know compared to most.
Instead, you try to tell me that my perspective is wrong- when i can easily SEE the science and verify it BY MYSELF unlike you.
what Wifan engages in is not intellectualism which must to contain a basic democratic element to attain its best expression.
Intellecutalism is not a democracy. It is logic and only logic. Doesnt matter what the common consensus is on global warming if they happen to be FAR LESS educated than i am in sciences. it is logic and logic is neither a slave to democracy or dictatorship.
blac conquerors used to behave that way 10 thousand years ago.... so it is right and justifiable for white conquerors to do the same currently
Who said 10,000 years ago ?
black conquerors didnt start their conquering march till 2000 years ago, when black people found steel. Black people (and your ancestors) are Bantu people. NOT all hafricans like you clueless, cultureless and heritage-less afro-americans/afro-caribbeans think.
It is only the racist afro-americans/afro-caribbeans, influenced (unfortunately) by centuries of racist environment of the white-dominated americas that think Africa to be black.
As the book Guns, Germs & Steel by Jared Diamond proves(and his sources are verified through the highest of universtity-mandated standards), black only applies to the Bantu people, much like how white only applies to north europeans by the general viewpoint of the world.
The author, due to further accuracy in social 'science', discards the EUROPEAN or the slave-descendant viewpoint of what is black/what is white- he showed picture of over 50 different ethnic groups from around the world to a test subject of 2000 people of highly diverse mix (and in various nations too) to get an idea about what the WORLD thinks to be black.
And sure enough, most of the world thinks the north/central europeans to be 'white', the Bantu of Africa (from which 99% of black slaves in the new world descend from btw) as black, people with distinctive 'east-asian' eyes as 'east asians/orientals' and everyone else as 'other/mixed'. This includes the khoi-san, the nilo-saharans, the egypto-sudanese, etc etc- most of whom the slave-descendants and the master-descendants of north america think to be black.
He proves quite categorically that even in nilo-saharan places, where no whiteman has been in there in any contact with the villagers, they do not consider themselves BLACK and BLACK is reserved for the bantu people only. They, like most of the world, consider themselves colored people.
And i wasn't justifying anything- merely saying that most of what you accuse the whiteman of, the blackman is guilty of it just a few centuries/1000 yrs before the whiteman got there. So it is nothing more than chip-pon-shoulda of your own limited experience and prejudice that is talking.
Anyways, i don't blame you for your ignorance- afterall, you barely know Eurasia- the land that is by far the most diverse, the most innovative and the leading producer of civilization in mankind's history for the last 10,000 years or more.
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In GUYANA ......Hindus do NOT care about the well being of Muslims ....
I dont have a problem with muslims- muslims are people.
I have a problem with the barbaric faith of Islam.
thats all really.
And despite your victim mentality, it is a FACT that a hindu-majority nation like India treats its muslims FAR better than a muslim majority nation like Pakistan treats non-muslims!
As i said before, from Bosnia to Chechnya, Kasmir to Thailand- everyone get along with everyone, EXCEPT the muslim fundies...the common denominator to these vastly different and far apart lands is the Islam problem.
The proof, as i always say, is in the pudding!
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Who said 10,000 years ago ?
black conquerors didnt start their conquering march till 2000 years ago, when black people found steel. Black people (and your ancestors) are Bantu people. NOT all hafricans like you clueless, cultureless and heritage-less afro-americans/afro-caribbeans think.
I am not disrespecting your heritage....why are you disrespecting mine.
you see what I mean Sir K!!! where on earth does Wifan get this history, this chronology? who supports it? where is accepted as general?
you see Wifan is a comedian and what he presents here and everywhere, all the time, is excellent stand-up routine!
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| enough!! enough!!! please! this is a turkey shoot! I dont want a century like this....against a minnow. just leave it in the mid-eighties.
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Problem dumbass, is you also take the earth with you. If we do not stop, there wont be anything more than microbial life on the earth's surface for millions and millions of years and earth may never have another sentient species.
And all for your materialistic greed. Funny!
precisely! weapon of mass destruction in yuh rass. the fire next time...this is next time.
GOD in yuh wiyah!!!!!!!
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It is only the racist afro-americans/afro-caribbeans, influenced (unfortunately) by centuries of racist environment of the white-dominated americas that think Africa to be black.
what is dat unfortunately? understandign supposedly rational admission and acceptance of fact? are we supposed to be grateful?
keep it man! dat go gih we jaunders!
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Too fugging bad. Bottomline is, choose between a few generations of material wealth and then annihilation or slower development for longer prosperity and even balance.
The temperate lands of the whiteman has one critical advantage- it is NOT the engine of the planet in flora and fauna. The tropics are the engine of biodiversity and life on this planet's lands. Clearcutting tropical forests to mek way for more people is far far more damaging to nature (and thus, us, in the long run) than clearcutting forests in siberia or ireland.
thats right we are absolutely greedy as we move we huge clear cutting combines that reap trees like corn...into place in our forests....combines we manufacture in our polluting factories...to reap trees we then pulp fuh paper and furniture, fuh factory skids and whatever else we waste wood on,.....using the most vile chemicals to tanalise and treat the wodden products so that when sawdust is used for mulch nothing grows for generations from the compost.
that what we do we greedy inconsiderate developing worlders.....destroying the engine of the worlds fauna....
you see Andy Robberts, the sam Angie Robbers of Redbaron who runs a fishing business in Antigua...along with many other | | |
