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Posted: Wed Jul 18th, 2007 03:57 am |
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keeping up with facts is not creating phantasies.
Says the guy stuck to 40 year old backdated theories of Diop.
How ironic!
now let me here waht you say about the 30k year old iron mine found in what is now Swaziland...give us your update on that.
then what was the original significance of its existence..what was a major purpose of omine
As i said, i ent answering a single question of yours until you answer mine. I posed first and you ran away-despite the fact that i presented scientific evidence of science-trained experts on this.
Nice deflection strategy, chump- come back to global warming.
Your denial of global warming is nothing more than your lack of understanding of science and denial of data corroborrating it.
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You talk too much skunt about issues you do not understand- an undereducated fellow brainwashed due to his extremist white-hate agenda
yu wish eh!
the point is we must see you for what you are..what yu represent, your danger.
that is all that is important with you. your grandiloquence helps in this regard, exposing the uselessnees you represent regardless of what you may be..or rather WHAT YOU CLAIM YOURSELF TO BE.
my porpose here is to set up things as straight as possible for westindian possibilities among my own here on 446, given our human content-diversity etc..for the region, for westindians
it is not essential that I be Einstein/Marx/Freud combined, only essential that i am capable of setting up fundmentals that can help us all forward with out westindian tasks.
as marxist i know my place and the essential need for the fullest development of all and every individual alive at any time...and westindians in our case here.
I must not pre-empt the development of others by seeking to substitute my self in their place... of their..the development of others. I am to do my part, and to bring others along.
what you are is reactionary, the reaction emplaced, awaiting opportunity to screw society...as intellectuals screw society now, currently
as such you are no different lets say from our old westindian intellectuals even such as reverred as Dr Walter Rodney was.
CLR James for example was the only one who saw what such as they were and are.... and outlined the potential for us.
yu are a vested interest, the mind that supposedly will lead social chagne..or can lead and contribute to social change, lead the revolution etc. even if as now you stand on the right-side..not the left-side seemingly you will be invovled and with both sides form the reaction.
yu see education and the educated were set up for this task, alienated from the rest of society by the very thing that is supposed to save society and take it foreward..education and the educated.
you do not see your own alienation and the danger such alienation poses to society, curently and in the future.
why? because you are and will be a vested interest, for as the 'mind' you will not work and participate in the production of the wealth.... or at such a time the material needs of society. that is beneath you in your alienation
you will lead and direct thats it..that what you are fitted out for. and so are a vested interest in waiting, dependant on the work of others to live, alienated from the workers in the form of taxation.... and/o whatever means any elite finds to hand to seperate workers from the goods they produce..
and very soon in order to make safe your position as the intellectual leaders in society, the actuall leaders, you interest will cause you to veer away from socialst and democratic principles, to become the reactio, imposing yourself on revolutionary society, killing the revolution, subsuming it into an opportunity for the intellectual group to dominate society. the reaction then lives in the current intellectual elite, in you and those like yourself.
and very soon we will see the re-emergence of police and army and command economies and wars etc..the evry way of life the revolution sought to eliminate.
that is what he intellectual elites will do in order to protect your view of things that as intellectual you are entitled to a greater share than any prdinary worker whose work obviously as as essential as yours in maintainng the social whole
that is what such as you portend, already are - leeches on society, producing nothing, alive at the expense of those who work. ....your current bureaucractic and white collars everywhere.
thats why the intellectuals must be made to do actual work, real work in oder to earn a living in a revolutionary future..work according to qualifications. engineers will not be able to chat shit and run things but work accoridng to skill and traiing in the production of the means of material survival at higher and higher levels as society goes.
that is to eliminate any possibility of the another elite class forming that will dominate and enslave society again.
it is either you work or society will be forced to kill off all the intellectuals while training more with a socialist sensibility and outlook who may better fit the new dispensatrion.
that is the problem with intellectuals. who have aborted the potential all progressive movements they have led since the age of independence.
just look at the westindies! Williams and the Manleys, Adams and Maryshaw, Best and Tapia movement in TnT. the westindiesis at the highest levels coming out of our ears...yet the region remains a social/economic wasteland.
the answer does not lie with such as you idiot, with the intellectual elites...and especially with such as you individually with your great education.
the intellectual elites are part of the prolblem, a huge part of it and cannot lead into the future. that job belongs to the people who will organise society in a democratic manner, focus society oin the needs of all within which framwork there is need for much intellectual WORK.
you all can and must do your work - the work of society, directed by society, be part of society, have a say, but not lead society as a class seperate from production, paid from the general production of those who work.
thats done completely and must never happen in a revolutionary situation. this is the last stage when intellectuals will be able to be grandiloquent jackass such as you are, bellowing your sense of superiority over all supposedly beneath you.
and the conception of such a society you have as one in which great minds are made to earn the same as poor minds displays such a poveryt of social knowledge and imagination based on real facts it is stupendous that one who claims as much for himself intellectually is so foolish about the future potential of democratic or socialist society.
yu have any idea of what the Marxists mean when they speak of the "NEGATION OF THE NEGATION?"
no time to edit! deal with it as it is .
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yuh know something! I am incredibly beat! a really tired man..exhausted and on my nose.
I have to take off posting for awhile. I am not up to it anymore.
tek win Wifan.
see yu all!
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http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/1573
a lil debate to keep allyuh warm while I am away
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Posted: Wed Jul 18th, 2007 09:39 am |
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as marxist i know my place and the essential need for the fullest development of all and every individual alive at any time...and westindians in our case here.
Thats the problem..you are a marxist..follower of a doctrine even stupider than capialism.
The rest of your post is unadulterated drivel. Simple reason why I will never be happy with the salary of a McDonald's burger-flipper and 99% of engineers wont sit for that is because we've had to bust our ar$e 10000x worse than the burger-flipper to EARN more.
Marxist economy has never worked and it will never work.
Take it from someone who hails fom bengal- the longest-running elected marxist government in history of the world.
Aint nothing a two-bit wannabe pinko like maphead can teach me there- i have seen marxist nonsense first-hand.
it is either you work or society will be forced to kill off all the intellectuals while training more with a socialist sensibility and outlook who may better fit the new dispensatrion.
Such has been the hallmark of marxist regimes- wanton killing for their demented dogma.
Nothing new- just don't pretend to be a humanist while you are at it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18th, 2007 09:40 am |
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mapoui wrote:
yuh know something! I am incredibly beat! a really tired man..exhausted and on my nose.
I have to take off posting for awhile. I am not up to it anymore.
tek win Wifan.
see yu all!
Remember this much, sh!thead- i will outlive you and your demented propaganda.
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http://caribbeancricket.com/topic/863408/4
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Finally,some advice about your choice of words
Instead of concentrating on who says what and who deserves to be told what
(which are pretty subjective and I happen to strongly disagree with your choice of
(not-so-humorous) sobriquets,
do try to realize that such unnecessary venom is well, unnecessary.
Argumentativeness and creating ferment just for the sake of it is truly a childish
game and I thought you had evolved beyond the need to do that. "
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Mapoui ,
check your PM......thanks
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Thats the problem..you are a marxist..follower of a doctrine even stupider than capialism.
The rest of your post is unadulterated drivel. Simple reason why I will never be happy with the salary of a McDonald's burger-flipper and 99% of engineers wont sit for that is because we've had to bust our ar$e 10000x worse than the burger-flipper to EARN more.
Marxist economy has never worked and it will never work.
Take it from someone who hails fom bengal- the longest-running elected marxist government in history of the world.
Aint nothing a two-bit wannabe pinko like maphead can teach me there- i have seen marxist nonsense first-hand
oh lawd!!! what subjectivity
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Posted: Wed Jul 18th, 2007 08:32 pm |
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it would do u good to read the philosophy of knowledge. that way you can then learn to differentiate between a social science and a natural science. it would then do u some good to read and understand some political economy because then you can appreciate that the simplistic diagnosis is the last refuge of dishonest people one.
i think u have regressed, i dont know why. u say you are educated, but the post suggests an uneducated person stridently insisting that his view of the world is the right one. its a great shame-its not educated, its ignorant.
sweet! Southward is absolutely precise here! dangerous reply there Southie!..erI I mean brillinat....
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Posted: Wed Jul 18th, 2007 09:07 pm |
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thenks for posting that CC.com thread Ketch!
what can one say about Wifan! Does Sir K know what he he is actuallydefending when he stands up for Wifan.
Wifan is already incorrigeable, cannot be deterred or reformed as a human being. and he is completely insane an STRANGELOVE by any sort of definition.
as I pointed out some time ago people somewhere are going to have a whole lot of trouble with this person in due course.
one may empathise with the fact that he is young and human and one must be considerate.
I am so but I have nothing to do with anything. and no matter how young and human Wifan is dangerous and can cause great harn as is clear from all he says and does here
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Posted: Wed Jul 18th, 2007 09:12 pm |
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and he is completely insane an STRANGELOVE by any sort of definition.
A marxist calling others insane is a rather ironic and laughable thing, really.
Does Sir K know what he he is actuallydefending when he stands up for Wifan.
Whatever it is, it is far less retarded than you defending Ketch_im and islamic terrorists who follow Koran to the letter of the law.
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Whatever it is, it is far less retarded than you defending Ketch_im and islamic terrorists who follow Koran to the letter of the law
I am against any such dortrinaire behaviour and have raved against here there and everywhere.
the doctrine is simply a guide, absolute faith reserved for the deity and not the doctrine.
I cannot be acused of being doctrinaire. inded the central tenet of Marxism is the essential nature of keeping abreast by living and doing, and doing the necessary analytuc work that goes into practice, observation of results analysys and back into practice.
that is the nature of things that marisim as a scientif method is based on. where is there anaything dogmatic in marxism?
some who profess marxism may not be. some may corrupt the science, use it as means to corrupting end.
that does not mean the method is flawed..or is flawed as to make o\it os no use
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Whatever it is, it is far less retarded than you defending Ketch_im and islamic terrorists who follow Koran to the letter of the law
I am against any such dortrinaire behaviour and have raved against here there and everywhere.
the doctrine is simply a guide, absolute faith reserved for the deity and not the doctrine.
I cannot be acused of being doctrinaire. inded the central tenet of Marxism is the essential nature of keeping abreast by living and doing, and doing the necessary analytuc work that goes into practice, observation of results analysys and back into practice.
that is the nature of things that marisim as a scientif method is based on. where is there anaything dogmatic in marxism?
some who profess marxism may not be. some may corrupt the science, use it as means to corrupting end.
that does not mean the method is flawed..or is flawed as to make o\it os no use
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I am against any such dortrinaire behaviour and have raved against here there and everywhere.
the doctrine is simply a guide, absolute faith reserved for the deity and not the doctrine.
Then oppose the doctrinal retard ketch_im's perspective and dont lecture someone who's culture is NOT doctrinal!
inded the central tenet of Marxism is the essential nature of keeping abreast by living and doing, and doing the necessary analytuc work that goes into practice, observation of results analysys and back into practice.
The essence of marxism is retardation- the same kind of retardation that expects people to put in more effort for no reason- that i put effort for 4 years and get a degree and i make the same as the lazy skunt who never left their McDonald's job.
Sorry but you are confusing retardation with salvation. Marxism is retarded and as i said- you have no idea of marxism at work- i come from a state where marxism has ruined the state.
that is the nature of things that marisim as a scientif method is based on.
Err no. Marxism is based on stupid idealism in the realms of impracticality. The same stupid idealism that expects a man to put 8 yrs effort to become a surgeon and then mek the same amount as the janitor.
hence marxism doesnt work, hasnt worked and will never work.
some who profess marxism may not be. some may corrupt the science, use it as means to corrupting end.
that does not mean the method is flawed..or is flawed as to make oit os no use
Typical arguments given by muslim fundies too...fact is, there isnt a SINGLE marxist government that has led to economic and ecological prosperity of a nation.
Capitalists are anti-nature because of their greed, marxists are anti nature because of their total ignorance of the issue.
Now, come back to Global warming- which is scientifically established. That you are challenging something scientifically established speaks volumes about your lack of scientific expertese than anything. And therefore, you should refrain from commenting on issues you are not educated on.
And no, listening to some propaganda doesnt make you educated- you are INCAPABLE to guage the veracity of the science behind Global Warming on your own. So you must rely on someone to explain it to you and spoon-feed you. And since you go to racist chip-pon-shoulda blackman pages, who just oppose anything comming out of the white world for the sake of it, due to historical paranoia, you pick the retarded explanation over the logical one.
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The essence of marxism is retardation- the same kind of retardation that expects people to put in more effort for no reason- that i put effort for 4 years and get a degree and i make the same as the lazy skunt who never left their McDonald's job.
Sorry but you are confusing retardation with salvation. Marxism is retarded and as i said- you have no idea of marxism at work- i come from a state where marxism has ruined the state
yuh mean what the people there who did whatever they did 'works
where did Marx leave some prototype state called marxist.... that all who follow the scientifc method must use?
when you find that prototype let me know!
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I am trying to imagine the set and combination of early circumstances that could have produced you
trauma as defined by Freud could be anything from a simple experience that the individual psyche could not deal with...to severe acts perpetrated on a child, or to others in its vicinity.
it is not easy!
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yuh mean what the people there who did whatever they did 'works
Err what ? I mean marxism doesnt work !
where did Marx leave some prototype state called marxist.... that all who follow the scientifc method must use?
USSR..China..eastern Europe, Cuba, Ethiopia...NOT A SINGLE marxist state worked...that is success rate of 0%, after several nations have tried to implement his theory. Thus the theory is garbage and utter shyte. It is also a fact that marxists kill/killed far far more innocent people than capitalists do- in this case, not only is marxism a fantasical delusion, it is also more barbaric.
trauma as defined by Freud could be anything from a simple experience that the individual psyche could not deal with...to severe acts perpetrated on a child, or to others in its vicinity.
I wondering the same thing about you and your white-hatred.
Wouldn't be surprised if you is the product of a whiteman raping a black woman.
it is not easy!
What also isnt easy is to become trained enough in science to comment on GW. Something that you aint trained in and I am. Thus your words have no value against mine in ANY scientific forum- is that in any way not clear ?
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What also isnt easy is to become trained enough in science to comment on GW. Something that you aint trained in and I am. Thus your words have no value against mine in ANY scientific forum- is that in any way not clear
what makes you so catergorical in this..? how do you know?
who tells you ..you are so solid in science?
all these are claims of yours....I i simply do not bother to talk with you for as i said...and listen closely you ignoramus: there is nothing to learn, to gain of value in a prolonged discourse with you...for all the science you call, you are a rigorous ass, rather than rigorously scientific, bringing to bear on debate the principles capable of stretching that debate, opening up insights, so that all participants come out feeling enlightened..enlightened in fact.
go back over all the discussions we have had and there is nothing new that comes out of it, no growth nutten. all it consistently boils down to is a contest between you and your superior knowledge and talents.... and the very principles we must engage in that may make the discussion worthwhile
I mean I saw this with you a long time ago and gave up...pissing you of, stretching you out, pulling your leg your leg, making an ass out of you....by the power of suggestion..the rat in laboratory became what our discourse was all about.
you did not escape like the other fellow on cc.com supposedly escaped from you . you are still here in my sights. still pulled and ,manipulated stretched out..all your contents on the table, exposed like the ass you are.
and what is worse I had been telling you all along and you were still caught in my headlights, unable to get out from my on-rushing wheels, as mesmerised as those next door , tyoically westindian treating a jackass like you with human concern for you well-being and personal development.
I never made that mistake with you..for I long ago realised hat so very human component of the westindian make-up is a weakness in work constructed by europe. if we insist on playing in sucjh waters we must displace europe in the world and replace its worlkd with ours which would make it safe for our sensibility to dominate and so safe for us to live in such a manner.
I doh play that way asshoile. there is no possibile way for you to play round my side..for you are a known quantity...instantaneously. and if not I alwasy look at people within the outer limits of the possible potential that exisist in thie european constructred criminalk realiuty we fundtion in. anything is possible withing thsoe walls, strangeloves coming out of the woodwork.
you think you are unique? there are Paul Bernados and people of trhat ilk on every extreme everwhere. if we are not on the lokout we will be caught napping. thats why westindisn are alwasy caught napping. but not me!
dont yu see my talk...how I have spoked from the start here and on CC.com
remember one of the first posts I made on the front page here ..or was it in the backroom..one of the first posts there......a long comprehensive list of european atrocity in the worl..including the Shakenaze zionist jes of Israel who collected Arab and jewish children and carted them off for experiment in the USA....as well as performed devilsih experiments on their own right there in Israel.
and you are abnsolutely into this crap from all you have exposed about yourself, the awesternised righ-wing nature you have exposed yourself to be. dont you realize all yoiu speak of on that post is the concomittant of bering europeanised wightwing? .
the social concomittant is torture, ritual murder, genocide, human experiment of all kinds..all sorts of insane crappy things
this I knew about you from the minute you began to speak in the pages cc.com/446
it is like hitler all over again and the fascists. you were calling me stalinmist but I knew you to be fascist. and you expposurte of yourself next door as experimenting with the posteres there further expose you as I have seen you from the start. that is why I have beassidously warning everyone about the true danger you represent.
you do have some ability but you are a completley useless individual, anti human, out of the loop, a danfger to society if you get loose with some power.
when was the last time you had sex with a real woman? when was the last time you dealt with ordinary human issues....love, break-up and restart, party a little, danced etc?when was the last time you looked at a porno move, went a porn shop..sex is norman so a visit to a porn shop is not a sin!
the reasons you got away from them on CC.com is because as i said they refuse to move outside the box..the intellectual box their success has placed them in.
then there is the westindian sensibility to be kind and concerned for people, especially when they are young abd bright, and especially when they are not black.
they can be harsh on other blacks from the start regardless. but they are not from the start with outsiders such as you.
but now that you have exposed yourself I believe they will take great pains to smoke your rass out everywhere you may try to yuh skunt.
who is the subject now skunt..who the fool, the the rat in the labyrinth?
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what makes you so catergorical in this..? how do you know?
who tells you ..you are so solid in science?
I am an electrical engineer. Yes, i am VERY solid in science.
I am so categoric on this because you've already demonstrated several times your inability to grasp science in a methodical way.
i simply do not bother to talk with you for as i said.
Ummm..hello mr delusional skunt, you ARE talking to me in that post, you talk to me in stupidly huge posts filled with cr@p and yet you deny it...you need to go to a doctah fast...your delusions are getting way too bad these days.
so that all participants come out feeling enlightened..enlightened in fact.
many have come out feeling enlightened and many have said so- even here. You unfortunately will always come out feeling like a skunt because you ARE a skunt. The teacher cannot teach the ones who refuse to learn- nor can the teacher mek one feel good about themselves when they are a boulder-pon-shoulder skunt. So in short, you feeling unenlightened after discoursing with me is YOUR shortcomming, not mine.
you are still here in my sights. still pulled and ,manipulated stretched out..all your contents on the table, exposed like the ass you are
Nice try, rat.
It is you who go on with the 'i going weh, i cyan tek it no more' stuff, not me. You arnt intellectually capable enough to make me dance. And all it took was one post for me to bring you, the rat, back into the maze. Nice try but no cigar, chump.
the concomittant of bering europeanised wightwing? .
I dont care whether it is or it isnt. Nobody is wrong 100% of the time- which is why i dont care WHO adopts what issue but whether the ISSUE ITSELF is valid or not. if that is the concomittant of the europeanized right-wing, then i say good on them for getting something right.
And that is the difference between YOU and ME- i am capable of forming my own opinion, due to my posession of knowledge scientific to guage the veracity of an argument. Whereas YOU are the clueless idiot limited to reading second-hand opinions- the moron who walks in and goes 'just gimme the bottomline, no techno-babble'. As i said before, when your superiors talk about science, just shut up and listen.
YOU do not hold the authority to challenge moi in a scientific pronoucement- is THAT clear to yo or not ?
the awesternised righ-wing nature you have exposed yourself to be.
Err no...it is YOU who has exposed himself to be a boulder-pon-shoulder scarred descandant of slaves with an identity crisis and insecurity complex.
when was the last time you had sex with a real woman?
Three nights ago. How is this important ?
when was the last time you looked at a porno move, went a porn shop..sex is norman so a visit to a porn shop is not a sin!
It was more than six years ago,in my teenage years. Nothing against porn- except that it is for the kids and those who ent get any ( or like you, stuck with the only one you dont wanna get any from). Again, all irrelevant dribble of the intellectually bested.
Now..get back to Global warming- the issue of this thread..the issue you ran away from the moment your superior in this topic (me), joined the debate.
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the truth lies in what is above your last post...immediately above. you do not have to defeat me..defeat the scientists who have claimed and backed it u.... that warming is due to to factors that have little to with current human activity...that it is long term and does not pose a threat to human life. they have proven that the world has been warmer than it is now and is predicted to get.... without the dire consequences predicted by skunt Gore.
I did not make my post to narrow it down to a debate between my skiils in science and yours. you have come to my post and degraded the dam thing, brought it down to your sick squabbling level, the level you drag everwhere with you seeking to prove your superiority. you walk into the debate establish your superiority and subsume all else into the fights you cause as a result to prove yourself superior..challenging all who oppose you as to who is more learned brighter etc.
let me put it to you clearly one more time- the last fucking time.: who gives a fuck whether you are superior or not, whetheher you know more than this or that person, whether you are smarter superior etc.
why dont you fuck off somewhere with all that waste of time useless bullshit.
lets do this eh wifan..and after just disahfuckingpear will you:
tek win! you are all you say you are, so superior the polar ice caps melt, the stars become green and jesus returns to worship at your fucking feet.
now that you have won all that... are humans freed from war and capitalist manipualtion of all and everythging causing all manner of social dislocation...
have all been made secure in food, freed from drought and pestilence, crime and all that beset humans...
;isten asshole! nutten in this world depends on anything or anyway you may be, superior inferior...whether you tall or short, pink or blue.... period.
this thread was not established for any such purpose as it has devovled to this due to you..your participation.
man I do not appreciate you additions to my post..I would be happy if you stayed away, leaving us lesser folk to paddle our way to whatver little truth we mae glean without you.
nutten in this world depends on you at all regardless of who and what you are.
so run along will you, you fucking headache. too bad a couple of aspirin wont make you disappear.
I will not talk to you in future if you persist will all this argumentative bullshit of yours. it is time for you to grow to up...or f'... off yu hear.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18th, 2007 11:26 pm |
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defeat the scientist who have claimed and backed it up that warming is due to to factors that have little to with current hguman activitry
Have already done so - defeating the mouth-pieces of oil corporations who stand to lose the most is not a hard task.
you have come to my post and degraded the dam thing, brought ti wodn to you sick squabbling level, the level you drag everwhere with you seeking to prove your superiority. you walk into the debate establish you superiority and subsume all else into the fights you seek to prove yourself superior..challenging all who oppose you as who is more learned et
hahaahahahhaha
Whinings of the beaten man, left without a place to run and hide.
Yes, qualification is an issue- if you talking physics and one man is a physics MSc and the other is a clueless undereducated skunt like you, it is obvious that the MSc knows wtf he is talking about.
Same case here- notice it is I who wanna go back to global warming debate and yuh hiding from it, because you KNOW that the moment you make a point relating to GW being unscientific, i will blow it apart like the drivel it is !
PS: Calm down labrat..calm down..all that huge-font shouting really discrediting yuh, yuh know....and next time yuh wanna steal my line and play mastah of puppets, remember dat it is the mastah who makes the puppet dance, not the other way round.Last edited on Wed Jul 18th, 2007 11:27 pm by WIfan
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Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2007 01:01 am |
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Whinings of the beaten man, left without a place to run and hide.
yu are mad Wifam....wh is beaten here, where, anywhere by you save being absolutely tired of the waste fot ime you have engendered here and that we have allowed ourselves to get involved in because of you...you absolute iron ass.
beaten what how where,? you simply cannot understand ...there is nothing ..no point on whaich anything of value turns where yu personally and indivdually are concerned.
it does not matter if you are einstein to the power of exponent. it is till fuck you if you are aas your are a damw wasteful full of himself fool.
dont you get it!!!? let me whisper it in your ear!you are a wasteful unimportant, insignificnat asshole,regardles of your schooling, abilities etc....uase all of it is put to no useful purpose at all not even in discourse and debate.
you are a dam fool prone to experiment with people expsoing you sense of superiority as a danger to ordinary fork..indeed to all folks.
you have revealed yourself as someone who must be carefull monitored for fear of what you may do to people, as you see yourself as so superior other people are just moths to be used as you see fit.
it is not about ou but what you can contribute to the good and development of the process we are all a aprt of.
you are a divisive and dangerous element in the human process and you do not know it. you feel you are all of it rther the a problematic part of the whole.
but go long man! you have not defeated anyone but please continue to feel that you have. and go for more of these victories...go win as many as you can. play out your life winning these victories.
at least you would be occupied with innocuities...not running large things than cam harm lots of people.
I would expect from now on few people will speak with you in these parts...have a nice life.
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Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2007 02:10 am |
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beaten what how where,?
By you ignoring points you cannot answer, playing the race card when a logical explanation and quoting facts shows you up for being a hack, etc etc, you've beaten your own arguments here.
All i've had to do is shine the light.
uase all of it is put to no useful purpose at all not even in discourse and debate.
Pronouncement of a clueless and under-educated idiot.
you sense of superiority as a danger to ordinary fork..indeed to all folks.
Sorry bro- but some of us are just made better in some regards than others- my field is logic and facts while yours is race-card playing chip-pon-shoulda retardation.
let us stick to what we know best- you the figments of fancy and me the logician with facts.
And since in an argument of facts, the logician will always whack a hack like you outta the park, i can understand your sense of inferiority.
but what you can contribute to the good and development of the process we are all a aprt of.
Agreed. My contributions with the truth, facts and logic far outstrips your rantings and afro-centric nonsense prism of the world. You are a lost person without a heritage- find your identity first before you wish to comment on issues of the world that you are clueless about.
you have not defeated anyone but please continue to feel that you have.
Sorry but i ent tooting my own horn here- it has been commented on here before, by the audience (the other posters here) on how blitheringly incorrect you are and have gotten your a$$-kicked in a debate.
But i cant blame you for being in denial- it must scar a lot to have 99% of your beleifs debunked as figments of your imagination.
not running large things than cam harm lots of people.
Too bad for you that i am too politically inclined not to get involved in politics in the future.
If i ever get elected,i will look up your old sorry a$$ to burn it some more.
I would expect from now on few people will speak with you in these parts...have a nice life.
Hey retard, newsflash : You aint any more welcome here than I am according to the moderators and the citizens here.
Now go whine some more for pity.
You've lost it by losing your temper- as clearly indicated with your desperate attempts at being heard by bolding & magnifying your text.
I suggest you seek help, O scarred one. Beginning with your victim-blackman complex.
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Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2007 02:12 am |
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You are one sad bastard for you to lie over and over and over and over again.
Serious question. Does lying make you feel like a man?
A man who continuously lies in order to try and win an argument is considered a smart man? A bright man? WOW
Same knife stick sheep......stick goat!
I think its time people recognise WI Fan for who he is.
He has also been described as a pathological liar and I don`t think he should be hiding behind his career to mask who he really is.
apparently he is not smart enough to overcome lying, nor have the ability to engineer a solution for such a weakness, such a chronic disease.
Maybe he also lacks the ability to engineer an apology to the Old lady, or even that Headley tape as Jah jah said.
Speaking about what he studied or not cannot really mask who he really is deep down.
His character is a function of his inward tendencies and outward influences, and it has certainly been found wanting. His heart is in a very bad state .
One must understand that if you study some science and engineering, it won`t necassarily cure you of the diseases like hatred, pathological lying, racism,untermenshenticsm homsexuality, perversion, arrogance, disrespect for older women and even self respect, which will also allow someone to respect others. maybe he is not smart enough to realise that, or maybe he thinks many aren`t smart enough to realise that so he will remain conceited, have an inflated view of himself and thinks a career path defines who he is as a human being.
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Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2007 02:21 am |
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Hey retard, newsflash : You aint any more welcome here than I am according to the moderators and the citizens here.
Now go whine some more for pity.
You've lost it by losing your temper- as clearly indicated with your desperate attempts at being heard by bolding & magnifying your text.
I suggest you seek help, O scarred one. Beginning with your victim-blackman complex
I suppose they confided that to you did they..... that I am now welcome....?
the bolding was to make sure you heard the message being as hard of hearing as you are.
and you do piss me off and I dont hide my feeling smuch. but see why you piss me off couldnt you..... for I know you are also blind?
yu are such a waste thats what...such a senseless waste.......
man oh man!
the dead futility of such a human being as you in existence. oh jesus crist! you too are human.... which does not raise hopes high.
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Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2007 02:23 am |
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Putting the rantings of others wont serve anything more than to highlight your own plight.
Nobody said that you are the only retard around on the net- but like a cretin, you now have to bring in friends to deal with me.
Hahahahahaha..
Like i said chump- GET BACK TO GLOBAL WARMING.
Dont fear- don't hide- lets see your 'facts' that i can whack outta the ballpark as nonsense.
WCF, do you see how the old p*ssy is running away from the main issue ?
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the bolding was to make sure you heard the message being as hard of hearing as you are.
nice try to hide the fact that you bolded it coz you lost it in anger.
I don't fail to notice your regular-print posts, so no reason to bold it if it was to get my attention only.
As i said, chump, try that nonsense to someone who ent logically skilled.
but see why you piss me off couldnt you..... for I know you are also blind?
I know why i piss you off.
I am more qualified than you and almost half your age- if not younger. Seen more of the world, backs up my chat with facts corroborrated by figures of authority in the scientific community- your nonsense gets trashed and thus you got a complex happening. Unlike others, who rarely have a problem with me, you and a select few dogmatic retards get really traumatized at me destroying your dogma.
Add to that your inferiority complex for being a chip-pon-should blackman and your deluded retardation to be an old git and still be a communist, its not hard to figure out what a total mess you are as a person.
you too are human.... which does not raise hopes high.
Speak that in front of a mirror and you will have spoken the first accurate statement all day.
Now hurry to the mirror ! Go!
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Posted: Thu Jul 19th, 2007 03:00 am |
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WIfan wrote: Putting the rantings of others wont serve anything more than to highlight your own plight.
Nobody said that you are the only retard around on the net- but like a cretin, you now have to bring in friends to deal with me.
Hahahahahaha..
Like i said chump- GET BACK TO GLOBAL WARMING.
Dont fear- don't hide- lets see your 'facts' that i can whack outta the ballpark as nonsense.
WCF, do you see how the old p*ssy is running away from the main issue ?
I have no idea what you are talking sbout man. I gues I have to go back to the early posts to see some challenge you established to me personally.
I posted what I believe..and I am not meterologist so I cannot add scientifc enquiry carried out by me on the issue.
global warming as led by Al Gor, a notoriously nasty politician with record to match ....leadre of his class...starts with a disadvantage with sensible people, simply because of his presence..Gore... at the head of the project.
I pointed out how always in such 'scars' as I call them there is always a hidden agenda against the peoples interest.....as FOIA has proven.
then the opposing scientists claim seems absolutely logical: that the earth at times in its unimaginably long history has been warmer that it is now, warmer that it is projeted to get but without the consequences Gore trumpets.
then when one considers the projected solutions to global warming, one can easily dislimm the theat to the developing world for it will have to bear a truly disproportionate quantiof pain in the proposed corrections..which would just about abort any chance there is of ever getting out of poverty into a material development that can take care of the people there.
what do I need science to tell me when what i am dealing with and the answers I have given are eqauliy scientifice.
do you deny my claim about the M.O of the west with all these programs from the start of them, supposedly in the best interest of humanity?
the imperical evidence is conclusive, obvious, damming!
are the scientists credible when they claim that even with the highest projected warming, there will be no flooding and all the scares Gore mongers?
do you doubt that winter is no barrier to the malaria carrying mosquito Egypti...that malaria stated in the cold first not in the warm..or at least was contemporaneous with incidence in the warm as in the cold.
that eradicatin and prevention, , better hygene in the west has led to the elimination of the malaria threat... not winter.
that is relative to the jackass threat implanted in the idea of the spread of tropical weather further north..carryng tropical desesase with such a spread.
isnt that valid and scietific and historic as the records corroborate every bit of it?
there is no way I can take Global warming seriously! It is like globalisation and IMF/WB/WTO bullshit monetarist theory, that was supposed to raise the third world out of povert....instead sank it deeper into debt...the same programs pushed assidouously by the west as panacea for the developing world....that Latin America is now spits out whole after Argentina was brought to its knees with the economic crackpottery geared-up to waste developing finally and totally
the cry now is banko del sur, self reliant development and fuck the west and its jaundiced economic manipulations set up to keept the develoiping world down.
the etiology of the global warming crisis is not good..its pedigree and provenance exceedingly poor, rooted in a century of western bullshit and economic exploitation of the rest of the planet.
I will put my head on a block here...that GW will turn out to be another crock of shit like the war on drugs, or no child left behind, or compassionate conservatism...or any number of bullshit progrms set up with max popm to hype the humanistic aspects which are always mere words to fool americans or make them feel better about their government beating the shit out of the developing world, and taking their goods.
so I do not have to do any research to prove anything...to profer up any scientific justification for my position. fuck that! all I have to do as a third-worlder is go about my development, trusting own experts.
the onus is on Gore..and you... to prove beyond a doubt that your prognoistications are true, correct, precise. its all your jackass business not mine. is you start up the shit not me. I dont have to prove a damm thing...nor engage assholes like you in wasting and misdirecting debate.
the science is not the fucking point at all. the point is the continued locking down of the deveoping world..thats why I made the post in the first plac..to encourage debate on this apsect of tghe issue..... not to encourage you to appear with all your pointless fuckery.
it is up tp yu to prove not me....and yu better move fast for time is running out on you,....because the developing world is moving in the right direction...towards development and let global warming fall where the fuck it might.
'is allyuh trying to save the developming world in allyuh way' yeh right!
we trying to do so in the way we see as right. we have one choice: develop or die.
and even if global warming is true..which could hardly be the case... what fucking difference does it make ayuh ?
none at all.... for the supposed solution to global warming is no development for us and so we die. and if we do not develop we do what..... die ...same rass way!!!!
so there is ABSOLUTELY NO KISS MY ASS ALTERNATIVE TO OUR DEVELOPMENT ANYWAY.
so right or wrong fuck Glaobal Warming and Fuck Al Gore to the fifth power of exponent..and you too to the the same degree.
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Mapster ,
You know WIfan is a Homosexual ????
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